Same anti-zoo group going around spreading lies. One wonders, with all the social unrest and economic troubles the Eurozone is facing why this is what they are talking about.
furvert_tailEquine, large canid 6 points on 2014-10-12 14:41:55
I've left it too late. I was hoping to move there eventually. Part of my self control comes from the fear of being caught. :(
[deleted] 2 points on 2014-10-12 15:55:10
Thats what locks on the door and blinds on the winda's are fer.
YearningmiceEquus 3 points on 2014-10-12 16:15:42
More difficult with horses...
[deleted] 3 points on 2014-10-12 16:46:26
but not impossible.
[deleted] 1 point on 2014-10-12 23:48:16
still...
furvert_tailEquine, large canid 3 points on 2014-10-12 16:52:58
I'm a software person, I worry about being caught in the same way I worry about zero-day vulnerabilities. It's probably paranoia, but I assume police will be able to associate me with this post within ten years, even if I'm as perfect as I know how to be now.
[deleted] 0 points on 2014-10-12 22:19:13
The day someone invents a thought-scanner humanity is screwed. And we will be screwed in particular, since half of zoophilia is a classic thought-crime.
PawwsiesCanines! 1 point on 2014-10-15 03:25:32
Same here. I almost had a panic attack when I typed /r/zoophilia in my address bar in my regular browser without a VPN or Tor.
Could you PM me with what all you use to stay private talking about zoo stuff? I already use Tor, and I have a VPN for when websites decide to throw a fit with it.
Tundrovyy-VolkCanidae 1 point on 2014-10-15 10:52:15
It's a very good idea to use OTR messaging while chatting with zoos. Personally, I use yahoo IM over pidgin with a VPN.
zoozooz 2 points on 2014-10-12 17:01:10
That is happening for numerous reasons. The most important is that in the vast majority of cases it is an attack against the animals.
And he's not even trying to back this statement up with anything.
And under all circumstances, any doubts about it should go to the animals’ benefit.
No. That sounds nice, but has obvious bad consequences: Imagine you have a neighbor that hates you and your dog. Imagine that dog neighbor "accuses" you of having sex with that dog. Do you want the dog being taken away if there is even the slightest doubt that this is not true? This is so obviously a terrible idea that I can't fathom why people are eating this up.
They naturally cannot say no to going along with it.
He knows this, because...? I mean he didn't say, it's hard to tell whether an animal refuses or not or something like that. He clearly stated it in a way as if he had actual knowledge that they can't. But e doesn't say how he knows that...?
Jørgensen also said that the damage done to Denmark’s reputation by allowing animal sex was a factor in his decision.
And what about the reputation in the future when it turns out you are arguing for the wrong side?
The international community most recently focused on Denmark’s lack of an animal sex ban following a short documentary by Vice. The American news crew spoke with both zoophiles who argue that they are not harming the animals they have sex
Yea, and so far nobody has actually addressed what they said. Why is it okay to dismiss it without any argument?
wright-oneursidae canidae pantherinae 4 points on 2014-10-12 17:57:46
because it's easier to give in to the screaming masses instead of trying to educate them. you're overestimating the intelligence of people... :(
[deleted] 2 points on 2014-10-12 18:56:54
And what about the reputation in the future when it turns out you are arguing for the wrong side?
Jørgensen won't be around then. Hard to convince any of them they're on the wrong side while the trend is still criminalization.
Yea, and so far nobody has actually addressed what they said. Why is it okay to dismiss it without any argument?
Because the argument comes from... dogfuckers :)
Zoophile supporters you say? They sound suspiciously like... dogfuckers...
[deleted] 1 point on 2014-10-12 22:21:50
Don't worry. As with all laws, it will be justly and wisely applied and only hit really really (like for real, actual) criminals. /s
Tundrovyy-VolkCanidae 2 points on 2014-10-12 20:11:59
And now it's clear that the world will get worse for zoos before it gets better.
sigh... I haven't got much to say, other than that I'm deeply disappointed.
YearningmiceEquus 2 points on 2014-10-13 01:19:12
Pretty much in the same boat, except now we know where we stand. We can still talk if not act, at least in public.... protect those you love guys..
I'm so sorry to bring bad news
electricfoxx 3 points on 2014-10-12 23:43:44
When you find something you can't say, what do you do with it? My advice is, don't say it. Or at least, pick your battles.
Suppose in the future there is a movement to ban the color yellow. Proposals to paint anything yellow are denounced as "yellowist", as is anyone suspected of liking the color. People who like orange are tolerated but viewed with suspicion. Suppose you realize there is nothing wrong with yellow. If you go around saying this, you'll be denounced as a yellowist too, and you'll find yourself having a lot of arguments with anti-yellowists. If your aim in life is to rehabilitate the color yellow, that may be what you want. But if you're mostly interested in other questions, being labelled as a yellowist will just be a distraction. Argue with idiots, and you become an idiot.
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
― Mark Twain
SoerenK 2 points on 2014-10-13 18:54:16
Hi everyone
I'm a Danish journalist, and I would like to do a story about this new proposal by the minister, and I'm looking for someone who could represent the zoophiles-side of the argument. As you can imagine, that's not easy, so I want to ask you if you know how to get in touch with someone from Denmark or nearby countries?
Same anti-zoo group going around spreading lies. One wonders, with all the social unrest and economic troubles the Eurozone is facing why this is what they are talking about.
I've left it too late. I was hoping to move there eventually. Part of my self control comes from the fear of being caught. :(
Thats what locks on the door and blinds on the winda's are fer.
More difficult with horses...
but not impossible.
still...
I'm a software person, I worry about being caught in the same way I worry about zero-day vulnerabilities. It's probably paranoia, but I assume police will be able to associate me with this post within ten years, even if I'm as perfect as I know how to be now.
The day someone invents a thought-scanner humanity is screwed. And we will be screwed in particular, since half of zoophilia is a classic thought-crime.
Same here. I almost had a panic attack when I typed /r/zoophilia in my address bar in my regular browser without a VPN or Tor.
Could you PM me with what all you use to stay private talking about zoo stuff? I already use Tor, and I have a VPN for when websites decide to throw a fit with it.
It's a very good idea to use OTR messaging while chatting with zoos. Personally, I use yahoo IM over pidgin with a VPN.
And he's not even trying to back this statement up with anything.
No. That sounds nice, but has obvious bad consequences: Imagine you have a neighbor that hates you and your dog. Imagine that dog neighbor "accuses" you of having sex with that dog. Do you want the dog being taken away if there is even the slightest doubt that this is not true? This is so obviously a terrible idea that I can't fathom why people are eating this up.
He knows this, because...? I mean he didn't say, it's hard to tell whether an animal refuses or not or something like that. He clearly stated it in a way as if he had actual knowledge that they can't. But e doesn't say how he knows that...?
And what about the reputation in the future when it turns out you are arguing for the wrong side?
Yea, and so far nobody has actually addressed what they said. Why is it okay to dismiss it without any argument?
because it's easier to give in to the screaming masses instead of trying to educate them. you're overestimating the intelligence of people... :(
Jørgensen won't be around then. Hard to convince any of them they're on the wrong side while the trend is still criminalization.
Because the argument comes from... dogfuckers :)
Zoophile supporters you say? They sound suspiciously like... dogfuckers...
Don't worry. As with all laws, it will be justly and wisely applied and only hit really really (like for real, actual) criminals. /s
And now it's clear that the world will get worse for zoos before it gets better.
sigh... I haven't got much to say, other than that I'm deeply disappointed.
Pretty much in the same boat, except now we know where we stand. We can still talk if not act, at least in public.... protect those you love guys..
I'm so sorry to bring bad news
"Argue with idiots, and you become an idiot."
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
― Mark Twain
Hi everyone
I'm a Danish journalist, and I would like to do a story about this new proposal by the minister, and I'm looking for someone who could represent the zoophiles-side of the argument. As you can imagine, that's not easy, so I want to ask you if you know how to get in touch with someone from Denmark or nearby countries?
Thank you very much.
Best regards
Søren