Home sought for sexually abused dog *sick people* (youtube.com)
submitted 2015-05-09 00:36:01 by Yearningmice
coyotedrift Zoo Friendly 1 point on 2015-05-09 00:39:25

Why are you posting a news clip from 4 years ago?

Yearningmice 7 points on 2015-05-09 00:44:12

Was just posted to YouTube again for some reason. Thought it important for folks who might want to raid the comments. Feel free to down vote if inappropriate.

kinggourd123 -9 points on 2015-05-09 02:02:46

Downvoted. As in, your comment.

zootrashcan doggy doodle dandy 3 points on 2015-05-09 00:50:17

Well at least she wasn't killed.

HeartBeatOfTheBeast Hoof and Claw 1 point on 2015-05-12 20:02:16

Sadly surprising considering other cases where the animal was put down.

doghumper 2 points on 2015-05-09 04:01:04

"abused", yeah right

First of all, this guy's biggest mistake was that he was a furry and used the same name on beastforum that he did in the furry community, and enabled someone to dox him. Furries love drama. https://www.flayrah.com/3742/krypto1701-avoids-jail-receives-community-service-and-fine

http://www.dogheirs.com/larne/posts/595-abused-dog-rescued-by-war-veteran-and-his-family

The rescue organization even admits that she's a perfectly happy well adjusted dog, from the last link: "[After] what she's been through is amazing that she can be so loving and so affectionate and so friendly to everyone that meets her and high energy like nothing ever happened," said Laura Lemke of Open Arms Rescue WNY.

Moral of the story is to protect your identity online, make damn sure your pictures and videos can't be used to identify you and stay the hell away from furries.

actuallynotazoophile ok, I lied 9 points on 2015-05-09 04:53:13

The rescue organization even admits that she's a perfectly happy well adjusted dog, from the last link: "[After] what she's been through is amazing that she can be so loving and so affectionate and so friendly to everyone that meets her and high energy like nothing ever happened

god damn can these people seriously not put 2 and 2 together. Sex does not always harm an animal.

wright-one ursidae canidae pantherinae 1 point on 2015-05-09 15:28:30

indeed. that is some serious bullshit. :(

actuallynotazoophile ok, I lied 1 point on 2015-05-09 17:12:41

Its annoying. I cant even imagine their thought processes for things like this. It makes total sense in their mind, 'the dog looks happy but she was actually abused so she must be mentally harmed', but I cannot wrap my head around their logic. Interestingly, the quote was from a woman. There must be some emotional aspect that I'm missing that I cant even begin to comprehend.

HeartBeatOfTheBeast Hoof and Claw 1 point on 2015-05-12 20:00:22

Its terrible the rescue organization did this. So incompetent.

zoozooz 5 points on 2015-05-09 07:35:53

Does it bother nobody that from the news articles you can not actually form an opinion on this because they never say what actually happened to her?

the dog had suffered sexual abuse

[After] what she's been through

the horrible abuses

But what ARE they talking about? Can they not tell us what actually happened to her and why they think that harmed her?

Why am I almost sure that at no time an unbiased expert was asked to evaluate whether she was harmed by what actually happened?

edit: https://www.flayrah.com/3577/krypto1701-arrested-animal-cruelty

According to records, other items collected included a book about bestiality titled "Dearest Pet"

Well, "a book about bestiality"... http://www.utilitarian.net/singer/by/2001----.htm

But what really got me:

Krypto1701, has been charged with animal cruelty

Investigators have said that they would like to charge Bower with more serious offenses, but Ohio has no laws regarding bestiality.

How in the world is "animal cruelty" not already "more serious" than "bestiality"? These people have such a weird mindset.

https://www.flayrah.com/3602/further-charges-laid-krypto1701-animal-abuse-case

One dated April 4, 2010 detailed a physical encounter with the animal. Maggie and another (male) dog were euthanised five days later. Maggie was reportedly suffering from pyrometra, an infection of the uterus, which Jordan said "could have been caused by the use of lubricants".

Why were they euthanized?

Kynophile Dog lover 4 points on 2015-05-09 14:45:43

Pyometra is deadly and painful, so that could be enough of a reason for euthanasia if it was serious and actually present. That said, however, their blaming it on "lubricant use" is sketchy at best.

First, pyometra is the main reason vets recommend spaying, because it happens suddenly and is first caused by hormone imbalances (Note: paper is behind a paywall, and I have only read the abstract and other corroborating sources). Usually, when a bitch (for example) goes into heat, her uterine lining expands to prepare for pregnancy, and will then retract to normal size. But with too much estrogen, too little progesterone, or messed up responses to either one, the uterine lining can remain engorged and vulnerable to bacterial infection, from bacteria present around the vagina. This leads, eventually, to the whole uterine system swelling with infection and pus and likely her death without treatment (which is usually an emergency spay).

So while the bacterial infection is an important step in the process, it can't reasonably be considered the cause of pyometra: that dubious honor goes to the initial hormone response. But preventing bacterial infections is of importance for unaltered animals for this reason. And while it is true that some lubricants (petroleum jelly and oil-based) slightly increase the risk for infection, they don't cause them so much as mildly increase the odds. And no such data has been shown for water-based or even natural lubricants, which seem to be the recommendations of every guide to interspecies sex I have ever read (though this isn't incontrovertible, obviously).

So, Jordan's statement would have been more accurate if it read that pyometra could have been made slightly more likely to progress more quickly after an initial hormone problem made her susceptible to infection, assuming that oil-based lubricants were used. But that's less sensational than "lube made her sick."

zoozooz 2 points on 2015-05-09 14:58:46

Even if it was the case that it was untreatable, that still leaves the other (male) dog...

actuallynotazoophile ok, I lied 1 point on 2015-05-09 15:23:07

Would an observant zoo would be more likely to spot pyometra earlier than a non zoo seeing as, to put it bluntly, they probably spend a bit more time around her vag?

Kynophile Dog lover 3 points on 2015-05-09 16:33:36

It's not so much the vag that gets sick as the uterus and parts inside. Hopefully they'd be more educated on the possibility because they will be keeping an unspayed bitch who they love dearly, and will take precautions to prevent infection (for example, wash beforehand and never go A to V). The first symptoms are a bit more subtle than that: dehydration, vomiting, and depression. I've also read on some zoosex guide that perpetual heat is also a possible symptom, and a zoo would certainly notice that. Otherwise, it's more about observing eating and drinking habits, which both zoos and nonzoos could do.

Dweb1029 1 point on 2015-05-12 01:50:13

I'm totally ok with zoophilia and etc. I love it. It really gets me going. But how do you know the sex was consensual? I mean for you zoophiles you obviously have a partner and it's consensual because they love you. Was this the same circumstance? We don't know. They may have been sick people. They may have not been.

coyotedrift Zoo Friendly 2 points on 2015-05-12 01:55:50

Apparently some folks here knew the zoo that the dog belonged to. seems to be a case of hanging with the wrong crowd and not being careful

Dweb1029 1 point on 2015-05-12 01:58:40

Ah i see! Gotta be careful with this stuff

Yearningmice 1 point on 2015-05-12 16:36:51

Well, we don't. News articles are notoriously poor sources of information, particular for subjects such as this with such dramatic (and more importantly sellable) headlines coming out of the mouths of anti-zoos.

What I can say, and what has been pointed out above is the dog who survived was perfectly alright after according to the worst of the guys opponents. It suggests it was just sex at worst. Considering the animals I've known I am much more likely to believe the animals had fun than not There are other signs which would have been in the story for sure if it had really been abuse. If his bitch didn't have Pyro it is likely he wouldn't have even been found guilty but a dead dog, for whatever reason even if it had nothing to do with the sex, will always carry a jury.

Dweb1029 1 point on 2015-05-12 17:19:28

I agree. It's so overly dramatic and blown out of proportion and sadly zoos have to live in the shadows their entire life :( or be crucified for it.

[deleted] 1 point on 2015-06-13 00:29:32

Yeah...it's a sucky reality.

Dweb1029 1 point on 2015-06-13 00:46:49

Agreed.

[deleted] 1 point on 2015-06-13 00:25:51

I don't know if it was that report or another I saw on tv but it angered me so much and was the cold turkey to the end of watching television. I was already thinking about not utilizing it anymore a few years ago but once I saw that it was "nope, I'm done."

The most rotten feeling for a zoosexual to sit and witness. I hate when people treat zoos like criminals with no evidence and treat us like sick people...