I was feeling rather lonely recently in a love-life sort of sense (well actually still am, but irrelevant) and thought occurred to me that zoophiles probably have it easier in this field considering they can buy a partner, but upon deeper thinking it was obvious this was not necessarily true, so it got me curious, is it easy for you all to find an animal partner you are romantically attracted to or do you get the lonelys like the rest of us searching from the right mate. Also as some of you have both human and non-human partners, are you happy with just a human partner/just an animal partner or would you still be missing something if you did not have both, even maybe just at different times. It is likely different for each of you, but this has sparked my curiosity a bit.
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Yes, it happens.
I was once told that dating a horse was "too easy" and so human relationships were default much harder to maintain and so forth. I doubt most people's relationship could survive the constraints placed upon zoophiles in today's society.
Some things to consider, most zoos have to get married before they can really know their animal partner. Most of us consider animal ownership a forever thing, regardless of how the love life works out and choose to share our lives with animals. I mean, how do you date a dog or a horse before taking the plunge? It's not uncommon to lease a horse, but the same horse may not be for sale. What if, you do fall for a horse you know, and their owner decided to move with them? Not a lot you can do about that.
As I'm pretty sure you know, I'm a "straight passing" zoosexual in that I have a human spouse of the opposite sex. I would say that each of my partners stretches my world in different but not opposite directions. My mare has made me get used to interacting with people on a whole different level, and my wife is responsible for me getting back to school and interacting with a whole different set of people. Both have made me grow for the better and I am better for having had both. I cannot imagine a world in which I did not have an equine mate, but human? I cannot say for sure except that I like what I have now.
That's sort of rambling but there is so much to these types of questions.
It is alright to ramble, it gives me more information to work with and ask more questions. I had not considered that aspect of it; having to buy the non-human animal before knowing if it is you type. It is much like having to get married before dating which I imagine can make things difficult. I imagine having both human and non-human partners is a little bit like an open marriage but I guess it depends on a number of factors.
I consider it a poly pivot relationship with me as the pivot. My human and mare don't engage with each other. Each relationship is important to me.
I agree that zoophiles have it much harder dating horses. Like you said it is hard to really get to know a horse before one actually buys it. You could lease one but again not all horses are for lease nor are all lease horses for sale. Another issue is finding out how willing the horse would be for sex with a human before buying one. I imagine (but have no experience in this department) that some horses would be more willing to have sex then others.
I never thought I was until a post on reddit said that some guys go years without any meaningful human contact, that hit me pretty hard, I've not been intimate with a human for just over a year now (by choice though). In my case dogly contact is preferable so I try to pet some guys while out and about to try and keep myself feeling ok for the time being.
I guess I am kinda lonely, friends can only go so far to fill the void, but honestly I just use it as motivation. It just pushes me even harder to work towards getting a dog of my own. I'm getting there, slowly but surely.
zoophiles have it easier? not a chance. you could hire a hooker for one night if you want human contact, but when you buy a dog its your responsibility for life. You can't buy a dog hooker for a night or two (ok you can (BF) but thats not something I've looked into).
I am one of those guys who has been going for years without meaningful human (or otherwise I guess) contact. I think it is mostly because I am "weird." Plus the fact that sex is something I do not want is probably a turn off for most, I just want somebody to cuddle with. I guess my brothers bird is pretty cuddly and sweet and I train butterflies and they are rather friendly, but it just is not the same to me. It curbs it a little but that is about it, just like having friends. Anywhosle I should try not to tangent too much, I have a bad habit of that so back to the subject.
I actually never even thought about the equivalent of an animal hooker, but I imagine it would not be the same because there is no bond, but I guess I am not a zoophile or even into sex at all so what do I know.
Well, even amongst humans prostitutes have a hard time representing themselves when money gets involved and their job is illegal.
I cannot even start to imagine the kind of life an animal for sale in such a way might live. I'm sure it could be done in a respectful way, but that'd be the long shot exception rather than the rule, and every John might want more than was given...
True, but it is still rather common from what I understand, though I have done zero research on this so I would not know.
Animals seem to be pretty mature about sex, as one zoophile put it. Animals do not see it as special or degrading, they just see it for what it is: a pleasurable act that feels good. Though I suppose there are more factors at play in this particular line especially if the human is doing it to the non-human animal.
Yeah, was thinking about those who would degrade humans and what they might want to do with animals... Very dark thoughts.
As for being common, all I can find about anything is a dark link circle from the daily mail that is used by the anti's to say it exists. I've not found anything suggesting it actually exists. I would love to have more information on this if you have any to share?
That is a good point, and yet another reason it is bad that it is completely barred, then there is no limits for people who are going to break that law anyway and no requirements for the renters (for lack of a better term) to make sure stuff like that does not happen. It is a bit like making pot illegal, all that does is send all the money to the 'bad guys,' but there I go again tangenting...
I think I had a few articles about it somewhere but I will probably never find them again as I did not save them. I heard of an 'animal sex brothel' being raided on some news thing and there was some other article I read once about some animal abuser who was running paid animal sex. He was one of those guys who gives zoophiles a bad name and claimed he did nothing wrong (I can not remember everything he did, but he was charged with other animal abuse charges not related to the sex selling as well). I also hear in Mexico they have places you can pay to watch women have sex with horses but have not looked into it.
Of those, the only one I have heard confirmed is the paying to watch in mexico.
The first one is a "could be" but the second one sounds a lot like what the guy in the book Uniquely Dangerous is claimed to have done. I believe he just had friends as visitors and no particular compunction about who had access to his animals. If you do come across something, particularly with a location or name, please post it to the sub. It's something I'd like to track down.
Alright. I have not researched such things since my big debate a while back but if I happen to stumble across one I will try to remember to do so.
Are you talking about the cases of Douglas Spink and Kenneth Pinyan?
It's the only American example that I can put a real place and name to, and my understanding is it had nothing to do with money although his enemies tried to make it a brothal story.
Want to read the book, but the blog site has been hidden now.
Sorry, I am not very good with names so I could not tell you for certain. The article did not have any pictures of them or I could tell you what they looked like.
The Daily Mail has a reputation for lack of connection with reality. The clearest example of which is how often they say "X causes/cures cancer" — I would say "sometimes with the same X doing both", but that's anecdotal, I've not seen the example as I wish to deny them advertising revenue.
It is truly the best example of bad journalism I can think of. It pretends to respectability but prints anything to make money.
I'm too poor to afford keeping a partner, and probably won't have what it would take to take care of one for a long time. So, yes I do get very lonely in that respect.
On the other hand, I also like humans and currently in a relationship with another human even though we don't get to see each other very often. So, at least there is that.
Before meeting my (equine) sweetheart, it had been years since I was in a relationship. And to tell the truth, that earlier relationship didn't do a whole lot for either of us. She was a fellow human, and while that didn't turn me off back then, I guess it didn't do wonders for creating that romantic spark either.
I'd be lying if I said that I was never lonely in life. But for all the times I was lonely, I don't remember giving up. I never thought, "Well, this is it, I'm now forever alone." At the worst, I was just bummed that things hadn't ever worked out.
When I started bonding with my now sweetheart, the lonelys vanished and the lovelys took their place. I'm perfectly content with her, and I wouldn't ask for more; I've found that I don't need a human partner to be happy.
Currently not being around horses makes me lonely. Not being able to have sex with horses also makes me blue, because I really don't want to stay a virgin. However I did own a horse for about 7 months which I assume is more then some zoos, so I need to be thankful for that.
First of all I did not want to accept that I almost exclusively love horses but the way my human relationships went is telling me how it is. Currently I am neither able of being with my mare friend or any other horses which makes me feel pretty much lonely as I only feel really comfortable around horses. Some people might they it is easy being a zoo but I don't think so especially if you love bigger animals that are more expensive to keep. But even though it is a hard life I am willing to make my dreams come true. Some people said yesterday tomorrow. They just need to do it. You are responsible for your choice of actually living with and for an animal. I for myself am working on it, living on a small farm with my beloved ones. It is a hard way to do but I will do it.
I don't get lonely as often now of days, more so just really bored. Though I do wish I could have some physical interactions once in a while but never again with a human from Earth...I'd kill to just have one day where I can cuddle with Shadow.