Exactly this.

Please, the both of you, don't give yourself too much credit, okay?

I post what news is happening. I've often posted good stuff, but lately that has not been what has been coming through. See my reply to Battlecrops as far as how and whys.

The links themselves are quite easy to get a few keyword searches and google's alerts platform puts the info right into your mailbox.

It's easy, little thing called google. (check out google alerts) I filtered bad news to post here only stuff where I thought things were a little odd, where it is a big warning for folks who might answer CL ads, or where the reporting seemed to need correction.

But you'd be surprised at the information you can find, a lonely guy posting on a psych forum, conservative religious essays against bestiality(no duh), more thoughtful ideas questioning what we do with animals and using bestiality as the context for an argument, fully pro-zoo essays which were not posted by zoos. All of those I had always posted without filtering because it's important to know your arguments and your enemy's arguments.

To be honest, it's been a bad three or four weeks of news as far as my searching has been going, but I figured that reddit is a link aggregator. The searching is easy enough for anyone to do, so I am guessing that reddit doesn't really need my help to add links so easily found.

Overall I am seeing a strengthening division in the zoo community which is apparently in the process of fracturing again, which will make it my #3 go around. Since I don't really want any shit on me from the passions that arouses I'll sit back with some popcorn.

Sticking our heads in the sand? What? Please tell me how zoophiles are connected with the guys from the articles you linked. What has a genuine zoo to do with people travelling the country to search for horse dick? What have we in common with people running an amateur dog shelter, only to provide themselves with "fresh meat"? What do I have in common with people whose hard drives contain animal and kiddie porn? And why do you have such a short fuse if some of us dare to contradict the underlying overtone of " poor people, caught for doing something totally harmless"? Look, the point here isn´t you posting these cases, it´s the general attitude of media distrust (biased reporting), the apologetic atmosphere ( damned intolerant society ) and trying to link two things having nothing in common ( bestiality and zoophilia ). Why should I care for people actually helping society to damn us zoos with their shown conduct? How important is it for me and any other zoo to read about another fencehopper, animal porn fiend, "wanna try out animal dick/cunt" without enough intelligence to realize the impending dangers of advertizing his urges on the internet? Please tell me: Why should I care for them, although they give a flying fuck about the public image drawn by them and also applied to genuine zoos by the public? You mentioned the division in the "zoo community"....do you really count all of those caught perpetrators in? By the way: there never was a division in the zoo community, we all have quite similar thoughts on the more controversial issues and speak out against most of the damnable conduct for f*cking years now. But we are overrun by wannabe zoos who clearly are bestialists only in it for the sex and nothing else. This isn´t zoophilia, it never was and it never will be. The division you mention is only a reaction of the ongoing process to realize that teaming up with the beasties won´t do us any good, no, quite the opposite, it harms our community. It´s always the beasties getting caught, I´ve never read about someone getting featured in the media who is living with his animal without all of the stuff that usually turns people into headlines. I´ll be clear on this: it´s the porn, shadow animal prostitution, the fencehopping, etc. what led us to this point we´re now residing on. How do we expect to change society´s view on zoophilia when negative examples keep emerging? How can people trust us and our claims to really love animals beyond sex when the antithesis is only a few clicks away ( and I´m NOT talking about the "evil" anti side, I´m talking about those guys the articles feature)? I know I´ll be leaning out of the window quite a bit, but my opinion on those guys from the articles is that they are the real enemies of zoophilia tolerated by society. They keep on showing that we "animal fuckers" are basically sex driven, out of our minds, unable to contain ourselves, seriously endangering society.

It´s easy to put the blame on everyone else, the lying media, the intolerant society, self proclaimed zoo hunters like Arpaio...but, if you dare to be honest, it basically is our own fault. Of course, we can´t make those irresponsible people stop from what they´re doing, but bringing up their cases in the context of this subreddit without clearly distancing our community from what those people have done is nothing more than counterproductive.

Trying to connect to zoos to the beasties is like binding two birds together. Altough the birds have four wings now, they won´t be able to fly. And according to this metaphor, bringing up every case of bestiality google will find won´t help the zoo cause in any way.