Shelbyville couple pleads guilty to bestiality (greensburgdailynews.com)
submitted 2015-08-18 07:31:43 by zoozooz
zoozooz 3 points on 2015-08-18 07:32:47

The case is not very interesting, but what the prosecutor said:

“It speaks for itself. Nothing needs to be said,” said Madison County Prosecutor Rodney Cummings. “We hope there is some level of civility in the world. Maybe at some level of debauchery, the government should intervene. This is something government should never sanction and say it’s OK.”

sigh

ursusem 4 points on 2015-08-18 07:53:49

It's weird how people apparently hate this thing so much. What is the big deal about bestiality? Bestiality is humans having sex with a different species. What's so bad about that? Why is that so much worse than any other sexual act? If a man and woman had uploaded a video of each other having sex together they wouldn't be charged with a felony so the moment that a dog is involved that really changes things, huh?

demsweetdoggykisses 8 points on 2015-08-18 08:35:46

It's easy for zoophiles to forget that for the "average" person it seems about as appealing as something like necrophilia... not that it's comparable as an act at all, just the stomach-turning idea is about on the same level.

But why? Lots of reasons put together. Biologically we're not supposed to mate outside our species, there's just supposed to be no attraction at all, so most people really aren't wired to accept it as something even possible. Which by itself might just lead to an indifferent population. But because even a handful of people find it so horrible and gross, they speak up and turn the opinion of the majority who might normally just not care and it becomes a cultural stigma that propagates. If you're indifferent about something, it's very easy to turn you in one direction or another with even a shred of evidence, and we've heard that evidence a thousand times... consent, abuse, health, pedophilia... we know the drill, we've all heard the thin, leaky arguments over and over, and the more people make the argument, the more indifferent people are swayed.

The biggest contributing factor is that our society makes sex bad. We're taught from early ages just how bad and awful sex is, how we're not supposed to look at it, think about it, do it, etc. Sexuality is a deeply personal issue that touches nerves like little else, simply because it's something bad, that everyone wants. Billions of people running around trying to feel loved and desired and have their sexuality validated by someone else, something that's such a huge, defining characteristic of our very existence. But we still have to be very careful talking about it. We still can't let others see our naked bodies, or see those of others. We don't want our sexuality questioned, because to do so is to question deep, scary parts of ourselves that again, we can't look at honestly because it's so bad. The fight for equality in marriage showed us a real deep look at the fear people have about sex. And how angry or upset people can become simply by having to acknowledge that other people have variances in sexuality, that there is no "normal" and that sex is something people do because they have desires, not just a function of reproduction that we have to do.

These ideas make us all realize that we're responsible and accountable for our own lives, for how happy we are with our sexuality, with how satisfied we really are. Few people ever really learn to open that black box.

So to look at something that falls waaaay outside the spectrum of normal sexuality, that's incredibly frighting to some people. It forces them to think about things that make them uncomfortable, to ask questions that do not have a right answer. To take away assurance and stability in life.

TL;DR: fear.

ursusem 2 points on 2015-08-18 09:01:58

Well it sounds like something our culture should embrace as quickly as possible then in order to evolve.

incognito-cognition 1 point on 2015-08-19 01:03:22

Unfortunately social change takes a really long time, and there are a lot of special interest groups out there who need to fight for survival now that it's getting unpopular to hate on homosexuals.

NBRPony 5 points on 2015-08-18 13:34:07

This is another example of why it's never a good idea to post certain "home movies" online.

btwIAMAzoophile Dogs are cute. 2 points on 2015-08-18 14:16:23

I think this is really the big lesson that can be gathered here. In the world we live in, you need to be safe and smart or there are some sad consequences you may have to face. The people who really seem to be targeted are those who share porn and I don't even do that but I give myself a bit of protection. Hate to(not really, but I don't like beating dead horses) preach VPNs again, but since websites like beastforum leave pretty big traces through your IP, a VPN will easily inhibit the law from following that trail.

HeartBeatOfTheBeast Hoof and Claw 1 point on 2015-08-20 18:27:57

So you are saying their ISP ratted on them?

btwIAMAzoophile Dogs are cute. 1 point on 2015-08-20 18:39:09

Not solely this, but if police find a video on a site like beastforum, it is very very easy for them to obtain warrant for the user's IP log which would show where they logged in from which would essentially give the address of the poster since police can subpoena the IP or whatnot. And there is reasonable evidence for them to have to comply. Isn't the first time this has happened; a very similar thing happened with blackstratu5 as well for example.

HeartBeatOfTheBeast Hoof and Claw 1 point on 2015-08-20 23:07:22

Thank you for the detailed explanation, but I'm a bit confused as to why beastforum would hand over their user's IP log. Or does beastforum's web host hand over the log. Basically what I'm asking is where do they get the IP log from.

furvert_tail Equine, large canid 1 point on 2015-08-21 11:06:31

BF (for example) might hand it over because they were ordered to by the court ("possession" and "manufacture" are different things, sometimes one is legal and not the other, and multiple jurisdictions make things much more complicated). Alternatively, if the police were already suspicious of the couple, they could order the couple's ISP to hand over records of which websites they went to.

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