Howdy, y'all! Just have some questions that need some answers or suggestions, whichever come first. So, I'm a bisexual horse zoophile and in the next couple of years, I should be in a position to have a long term relationship with an equine companion.
My question is for those in the community who have or had long term relationships with their equine mates; what's a good setup? As in, is one or at least two of them a good way to go? My first choice is definitely a miniature stallion, but I've been debating if I should raise him alone (being disabled, I'd be home most of the time). Mares are pretty awesome, too, so I'd kind of would like to have a relationship with them, as well.
I've broken it down into these setups and I'd like to get suggestions, advice, tales of experience or yea/nays on them:
- Mini stallion.
- Two stallions (both mini, or one a larger breed).
- Mini stallion and a mare (either a mini, mini jennet or pony).
- Mini stallion and a gelding (any size).
What combinations would be, I guess, the best experience for relationships and learning along the way? What combinations have worked for you folks? I'll digest and research whatever you guys have in those mental libraries of yours! Thanks!
the idea is that horses can't, or rather shouldn't be alone without a herd, so because I'm not a bisexual and only wanted one horse, which was expensive enough, I now have a mare and two ewes (they all herd together) and that works for me and them I think, sheep certainly cost less and are actually willing to eat the overgrown grass which helps keep the pasture healthy but that's like a whole 'nother thing. don't know if that really helps you specifically.
It's true, you can use another herbivore as a companion for a horse. It's not ideal but it's doable.
I don't know a huge amount about horse psychology, but I've read that they go insane if they aren't around other horses, so I don't think you should go with #1.
It's not 100% true.
Most of horses might become insane if they are not with equine companions, but some horse lives better alone than with with other equine.
Some horses are not sociable.
My mare, for example, only tolerate my cat and I. She attack other horses, and all other species as well.
I don't know about "insane" but they are VERY sad horses. Any herd animal needs someone to hang out with and we humans simply cannot be with them all day long.
Horses are very social creatures so you definitely want to get at least two horses, or one horse and some other companion animal. You can definitely keep two stallions together so long as you're getting them both as colts and they're both similarly sized. If you want two different sized stallions you will want to keep them separated. Getting a stallion and a mare is a great idea, and definitely the most versatile combination, but you have to be very careful to keep them separated so you don't have to worry about pregnancy. Personally I would recommend a female mini mule as a companion for a mini stallion. Mules are sterile so you can keep them together. Plus you have the added benefit of being able to use the mule as a tease mare, and the stallion to tease the mule.
Mini stallions are amazing companions. Best of luck with whatever decision you make.
Doh, I didn't even think about a mini mule, with the whole sterile thing. Fantastic suggestion! I think that's what I'll do. Thanks, brah :)
hm... this has me wondering about the owners at a nearby place that has a mule and a horse... ;)
My 2 cents:
Stallions are fickle. I know some that'll let you mess with their goods, but they only go so far. I know some that wont let anything near their goods. Here's what I've noticed though-- Minis tend to be on the "Bad touch! No!" side of the spectrum. Honestly only 1 in 6 stallions is a good zoo horse. When you go to buy one, good luck with the conversation about his attitude regarding people messing with his junk. Perhaps ask other zoos if they have a 'certified' zoo compatible horse for sale?
Pairing a stallion with a mule seems like a good idea to me. Its what I'd do. Problem is that he's not going to 'work' without stimulation of some sort from the female, so plan on that being required. A stallion that doesn't have a female around is going to be so blue-balls he'd probably be more willing and fun.
And as always, remember the rules of being a zoo: #1 Dont tell anyone. #2 Dont tell your parents/family. #3 Dont tell your friends. #4 Fencehopping is too risky. #5 Dont EVER record yourself in picture or videos. #6 Dont tell anyone. Nobody knows= no problems!
Thanks for the input! I plan I getting my equine family as soon as they are weaned from their mothers and they will be raised together. Being this young I should be able to train/introduce them to genital interaction; cleaning and casual touching at first, and then as they reach sexual maturity they should be comfortable enough to the point where I can progress it further.
In regards to the zoo rules, I've been a zoo for close to 20 years, so I'm pretty good at keeping my nose clean, :)
The way you can get around the subject of "messing with his junk" is simply to point out that you like to do everything for your horses, which includes trimming their feet, and cleaning their sheath, removing the bean from the tip of their penis etc. That you don't want to have to pay a vet or a farrier to do that stuff. That is considered completely innocent to horsefolk. Sheaths MUST be cleaned a few times a year and it's considered a nasty job, but all part of owning a male horse.
That's a great idea. If Jenny mules do it for you. I have very little mule experience but the few I've hung out with seemed ok. They simply don't smell as nice as horses and are not as beautiful IMO.
IMO you do need at least two horses. They really do better if they have one of their own to hang out with. It's good for their mental health.
I realize if you want to be a bottom to a stallion, a mini or small pony sized horse would be your safest bet, but may attract some attention unless you are careful. Full sized horses never attract attention as the average person simply thinks humans and full sized horses are not sexually compatible, plus you can say they are for riding, pulling a cart etc. So you may want to get a full sized mare, and a mini stallion. The problem will be how to prevent the mare getting pregnant? Because she WILL lay down for the little guy to mount at some point. You could try searching for a sterile mare. You might even find a vet that would install an IUD or somesuch. Your excuse being you want a good companion for your stallion but don't want offspring.
I have known a LOT of mares but only a few male horses. Some stallions were super friendly, and others mean as hell. It's interesting to note that one of the meanest stallions I've known, turned into the sweetest little guy once he was put in with a sterile mare as a pasture mate.
Thanks for the response, friend! Any future property would be designed for privacy, so neighbors or people passing by wouldn't be able to visually see the horses. Bottoming and mini stallions go hand and hand, I'd think, hahaha.
I would go a larger sized mare, but I'm planning on having my home double as a "stable", so they'd need to both be minis so they can fit in the house, and NBRpony's suggestion of a mini mule mare is a fantastic one.
Yeah, I have known some mean geldings, but all the stallions I've met were chill and laid back. Never an issue with mares, either. I'd imagine fulfilling a stallion's sexual desires would calm him down!