Hey, you said, "It's a big difference between letting something happen through love and trust rather than wanting it." Can you elaborate on what you mean by that?

many of us still doubt our actions after years of being a zoophile. in a way, it's a good sign, because it means you're aware of the fact that you could be taking advantage of an animal that may not want it, which hopefully then means you're more careful to not harm the animal. however, by its nature, the self-doubt doesn't make it easy to know for sure if you are or aren't hurting them. just keep being careful and vigilant.

as an example, my regular partner just kindof switches off sometimes. she can be totally into it for a while, but sometimes she decides she's done (if i haven't finished yet), and i just have to respect that, step back and leave her alone.

If you can read body language of your animal, then you can see the consent.

I think it's normal to question yourself, especially with everything around us telling us we're wrong. You have to remember though that animals can tell us both when they want to be petted, and equally when they dont want to be petted. sex is exactly the same way.

It's a big difference between letting something happen through love and trust rather than wanting it.

dunno if you want to expand on this but I'm thinking that 'letting something happen through love and trust' actually means more to me rather than simply 'wanting it' which is a product of lust.

First of all, questioning yourself over and over again is an essential and vital part of zoophilia. Without it, chances are high that the often cited "mutual love" mutates into a selfish justification at some point. Since animls can´t talk, there is always a certain degree of doubt involved in zoophilia; this is healthy and will prevent the zoophile from turning into an amoralistic dick that puts his/her own self gratification first.

Why do you think consent is "quite obvious" with a male animal, but "much more fogged" with female ones? I´ve heard this way of thinking so often now, but also know that male animals that "perform" on humans are ALWAYS trained to do so. Male dogs will hump anything, for example. Do you really think that Fido expresses his "love" when he humps a pillow or a stuffed animal? Do you really believe Fido is picky when he wants to get off and only sticks it into things he "loves"? For me, the real foggy thing is taking advantage of the natural humping reflex of male animals; basically no difference from taking advantage of the sucking reflex in calves. Infantile bovines will suck on everything that vaguely looks like a cows teat. Is this really consent or just taking advantage? For me, it´s quite the other way around: if female animals tolerate you "doing it with them" and show clear signs of pleasure (mares, for example, will show their delight by chewing and licking their lips, spreading their hind legs with the tail lifted upwards), identifying consent is much easier than with males who basically will hump anything that will let them. Of course you´ll need to study the female sexual behavior in depth to avoid misinterpretations, avoid misconceptions ( "mares twitch and piss as a sign of pleasure/climax during intercourse" ) due to lack of knowledge. But when you put some effort in trying to really understand how sexuality works with your species, it´s much more likely you´ll be able to recognize real consent in females than in males that just need some initial trigger to hump. An erect penis does not show "clear consent"...hell, even in human males, it´s not consent when the dick does the thinking, is it? ;)

Finally, I want to adress your doubts once again: You´re 23, as you wrote. Could it be that your doubts originate in the simple fact that "zoophilia" often is a temporary phase in the development of some? As a teenager/young adult, insecurity is common: "will my first girlfriend laugh at me? " , " is my dick too small? " , " Am I a shitty lover who lasts only a minute? ", etc....questions like this play a certain role. For some, choosing an animal that doesn´t care about and won´t snitch on your "penile dimensions" and shitty love performance is a way of getting comfortable with their own sexuality without any form of judgement. They kinda "rehearse" their sexuality in a safe, non judgemental "environment" with an animal as a preparation for future human contacts. I don´t say this is necessarily how you are, but an example that motivations for doing it with an animal can vary largely. I´ve met so many "hardcore zoos" in their late teens/early twenties, but a few years later, when they had their first human girl-/boyfriends, their "hardcore zoophilia" was gone all of a sudden. That´s what I call "substitute zoophilia" or " training zoophilia" as the animals clearly are a substitute for what these individuals really want or serve as training partners needed to get rid of the personal insecurities towards their own sexuality.

Please don´t take this as a personal attack or insult, just some things worth pondering. In the end, it´s totally up to you to examine yourself , your motives and your actions.

So you guys are attracted to animals? What the fuck? That's pretty nasty. I'm an animal lover but not like that holy shit.