Hey. Just wanted to say I came out to a friend of mine I know in real life…
And it went well! She was understanding and even a bit curious about my experiences. We had talked about zoophilia (among a score of other deviances) in the past, and so I knew she was somewhat open to it already. We didn’t talk about it much more that night and I haven’t brought the subject up since, but yeah… We still talk and play games together.
This wasn’t completely out of the blue, though. I am extremely apprehensive and cautious about the idea of coming out and I wouldn’t have done it with just any friend. Since we’ve talked about moving in together in the near future, I exposed my true nature to her to try to make her understand how big of a priority owning a dog is in my life. (I don’t think she got the hint though…)
It feels... weird. To be out there, you know. But it does feel good to have someone to talk to. Here's to hoping it won't backfire horribly!
Best of luck!
Thanks!
Congrats man! How did you manage to bring it up?
I have to mention though, coming out to a girl, a risky strategy IMO and something I wouldn't do personally, but I'm sure you've made the right call. Just make sure we don't read about you in the newspaper when you upset her and she decides to blow your cover in return...
it does doesn't it. I'm still trying to figure out how I feel about having done it. I feel like it's kinda great, kinda anti climactic, kinda relieving and kinda some other things I cant quite put my finger on. its mostly pretty great though, finally having someone who knows the real reason I don't pick up girls. It's nice.
I said I had something important to tell her and then said something along the lines of "remember when we talked about zoophilia? I was the one who brought that subject up. I am always the one who brings that subject up..." and she understood what I meant. She said she didn't judge me. She also said she had never considered me as someone who could hurt others or an animal, though I'm entirely sure how I should interpret that statement.
I should mention I told her online through chat. I don't think I would have gone through with it face to face.
I thought about all the possible ramifications of telling her a million times and I am certain my trust is well placed. I would honestly not see myself coming out to anybody else in my life and the fact that she is a girl doesn't really change anything about that...
Nice. Keep us updated with how it works out. Sounds like its all coming together if you're thinking about moving into a place that lets you keep a doggy. How exciting!
lets just agree to disagree :P
I'm not sure how this will work out though. Finding a place that allows dogs is incredibly limiting and since I'm the only one who wants one, I'll probably have some convincing to do.
I'll bet you 1 bitcoin my trust in her is well-placed :P
Why would girls be more risky? I mean, I'm a woman and a zoophile, so we exist too...
I know girls can be zoos but as far as we know zetacola's friend is not.
I generalise a lot when it comes to girls and so far it seems to work for me. One of those generalisations is that they can't keep secrets. Saying that, I've never had a girl I would call enough of a friend that I could entrust with such a secret. I dont think I ever will either, I've never had that much in common with them (hobbies etc.) and paired with the lack of sexual push that normal guys have I have no reason to hang out and become friends with them.
I do currently live with one and we get along fine so I guess I'm doing something right?
Yeah, um... treat girls as you would treat anyone. If you consider girls to be totally different guys, then it's not wonder if you don't get close female friends. I think it's kind of sad if you have trouble communicating with about 50% of the human population, based on what's in their pants.
Don't see us as "girls", see us as humans. Media might paint out women to be all about make-up, shopping and gossip, but that's not true. Just like the image of zoophiles all being animal abusers is not true.
I'm tired of sexist assumptions of how women are, so that's why I'm going off on a rant. Sorry.
mhmm, I wondered whether to comment as I knew I couldn't explain it properly. I realise you're not ranting to me specifically but I will write the following here regardless.
I do view girls as human, but I view them as human girls. If you think girls and boys are the same, then you are so very wrong, and there are many many science articles that back that up. I'm not mad about that, thats just the way it is. Honestly I've had better relationships with girls after realising that they actually are different to guys and thats not a bad thing, its just how it is.
Just because I appreciate the differences between the sexes does not mean that I treat either sex as below the other. Like I said in a recent comment, I have zero trouble communicating with girls and in fact I feel I'm able to communicate with them better due to my thoughts not instantly going sexual as soon as I see them. Just because I haven't found one I want to be friends with doesn't mean I have any problems with them.
(sorry to de-rail the thread ZC ;) )
I get what you're saying, but I don't agree. I have a few female friends, even some I consider close to me, and I can honestly tell you not all of them are like what you describe. Are boys and girls the same? No. But some girls are definitely capable of keeping secrets, just like some boys are definitely unable to do so.
Yes we do exist! There's a good 3 or 4 of us here haha.
Count me as number 4 or 5!
Sounds good. I came out to my parents nine years ago.
That takes real courage. I don't think I'll ever come out to anybody in my family.
Congrats.
Still don't quite know how important coming out is to me, I'm pretty content with people just assuming I'm an asexual who loves dogs. Tho I'm also pretty sure a few of my family members know and one of my good friends lol.
Coming out isn't that important to me. But if I'm to live with someone else and have a relationship with the dog, it just seems wrong for me to withhold that kind of information from them. Personal ethics, I guess.
Everybody else can think I'm asexual tho. Doesn't really matter all that much.
So glad it went well, I'm excited for you (: that's awesome to have a friend you can trust with that.
Good for you mate!
I got intellectually forced into a corner by one of my friends, and well.... I SUCK at lying.
He managed to keep it a secret for six months before accidentally letting slip in front of someone else. Within two days my whole class knew. Within a week basically the whole year knew. Most of my friends were fine with it, but those kids (you know the guys) make comments EVERY TIME I GO NEAR THEM! (sorry for the rant)
Hmm, that sucks...
On the flip side, stupid shenanigans that happen in school rarely stick with you later in life.
I really hope that's true or I'm screwed