20f zoo virgin ks help (self.zoophilia)
submitted 2016-05-13 21:14:42 by Atljazr

I recently admitted to my best friend that I want to have sex with large male dogs/ponies/horses and such. I've been searching for a long time for someone to help me achieve this but every time I find someone who has an animal and somewhere for the deed to happen, they end up being an old creepy dude who wants in on it or wants to film or take pictures. I would probably be fine with a woman joining in if she wants later, but my first time with an animal just needs to be me and the animal because I want to enjoy what I've been waiting so long for. I'm on probably the best website to find people like me (I won't name it because I don't want it to get reported or shut down, you can message me if you want to know what its called) but I'm having no luck and I'm so sexually frustrated and I'm not in a position to get a male dog of my own any time soon. Someone please give me advice or tell me you can help me :(

actuallynotazoophile ok, I lied 8 points on 2016-05-13 21:29:52

oh how I wish I was a mod. I would take great delight in banning you and deleting this post.

just gonna have to settle for reporting it :'(

Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 4 points on 2016-05-14 07:38:30

Mods won't do shit about this I am afraid.

I would classify this more as bestiality than zoophilia.

actuallynotazoophile ok, I lied 3 points on 2016-05-14 09:20:20

probably just gonna post it to drama instead.

Frostfedora Captain Esports 1 point on 2016-05-14 19:10:24

It's being left up because unless someone's bitter and looking for a fight, the OP can be pretty clearly read as someone who actually does love animals but suffers from sexual frustration, something that isn't specific to just zoophiles.

Better to inform them than let them potentially fuck themselves over through internet hookups due to being young and hormonal. She requested advice.

actuallynotazoophile ok, I lied 5 points on 2016-05-14 22:02:07

This sub will get quarantined if you allow hookups

did you not see how shitty /r/bestiality was before it got quarantined? literally every other post was just asking for hookups. It makes for a shitty environment to be in, especially as this sub is supposed to focus on the entire relationship with animals, not just the banging them part.

These posts also give the rest of us a bad name (AGAIN) to people who stumble into this sub. Instead of seeing people discussing a difficult sexuality they will just see horny animal fuckers. The whole reason I like this sub is because there are no references to just treating animals as fuck objects. Yeah banging them is part of the game, but we dont only talk about that bit, it's only a part of the whole experience for those of us who frequent here (I hope, otherwise why are you here?). There is no other zoophile forum on the internet like that.

I really dont want this place to be a refuge for beasties, they've got the whole of BF to chat around in if they want. I went back there again earlier and realised how much I hated the god awful avatars people have other there. Sometimes I just wanna chat zoo stuff without having to scroll through a page full of dicks.

This is a really shitty post to allow on this sub.

Frostfedora Captain Esports 3 points on 2016-05-14 22:37:22

You'd be surprised at how many hookup posts are deleted or filtered out automatically.

It's not a simple "18/m/california anyone want to fuck dogs" post, they're asking for advice on what to do in this situation, and that advice is to stay away from internet hookups.

actuallynotazoophile ok, I lied 3 points on 2016-05-14 22:47:37

I probably wouldn't be all that surprised unless the number is around 1 a month.

Someone please...tell me you can help me :(

thats not a hookup request? Or is it that they are allowed as long as they are thinly veiled as some kind of constructive post.

Frostfedora Captain Esports 1 point on 2016-05-14 22:51:10

Hi! I'm almost 20, also female, and I'm new to this stuff. Can I ask questions here without being judged? I always have creepy guys trying to get to me come mess around with their dogs while they watch or something.

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Such harsh words. Don't you realize this is indeed a fucking zoophile sub? What else did you expect? There's tone of other people on here admitting they're also having sex with animals/sexually attracted to animals and they aren't getting shade for it lol. And yes I realize they aren't sex objects.

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Someone please give me advice

I'll take it as a genuine user asking for advice. We're not in any risk of being quarantined for something like this.

actuallynotazoophile ok, I lied 2 points on 2016-05-14 22:56:50

\>new to this stuff

\>wants to go straight to dog fucking.

k, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

not downvoting you btw.

Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 1 point on 2016-05-15 03:17:42

If that's really how you are looking at it, I can respect that viewpoint. Forgive me, I'm just slightly paranoid as of late.

Frostfedora Captain Esports 1 point on 2016-05-15 04:28:39

No problem, anything you want to talk about? Can take it to PMs.

Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 1 point on 2016-05-16 11:47:32

I don't have much constructive to say on that subject at the moment. I will PM you possibly when I do. As you said, it's a hard problem to solve if no one is wiling to step up.

That's really all I got right now.

Eamonpro 1 point on 2016-05-29 15:09:16

Beastiality and zoophilia are there same things. They're both degenerate faggots that rape dogs.

Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 1 point on 2016-05-30 05:46:30

o rly?

IAmAZoophile Canine 3 points on 2016-05-13 21:36:31

Are you aware that animals are not, in fact, sex toys?

West_dogger niks soos die liefde van 'n hond 0 points on 2016-05-13 21:44:42

Jesus's fucking Christ.

zoozooz 11 points on 2016-05-13 21:52:07

they end up being an old creepy dude

Honestly, what type of people do you expect to let just any stranger on the internet fuck their animals? Do you picture a very likeable type of people?

icepaws 2 points on 2016-05-13 21:55:50

i clicked on this expecting you to actually need some kind of help, like maybe emotional support.
not this...

Atljazr 3 points on 2016-05-13 22:15:13

Such harsh words. Don't you realize this is indeed a fucking zoophile sub? What else did you expect? There's tone of other people on here admitting they're also having sex with animals/sexually attracted to animals and they aren't getting shade for it lol. And yes I realize they aren't sex objects.

HeartBeatOfTheBeast Hoof and Claw 1 point on 2016-05-13 22:37:22

Sorry if you feel unwelcome here. It must be tough not having your own animal. That being said "Hook-ups" are an easy to run afoul of the police. Save up money for your own animal(s) instead of sharing with someone who might have ill-intentions.

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furvert_tail Equine, large canid 4 points on 2016-05-13 23:26:32

I had a similar reaction a long time ago in a forum far, far away.

Thing is, you can only keep old creepy dudes away by enforcing the rules on the sidebar. One of which is:

  • Don't request or solicit animal sex. It's unsafe and unwise to do so with those you don't know exceptionally well beforehand.

Bestiality hook-ups are like bareback sex: even if you want it, the person who offers it is the last person you should do it with.

Nowix 3 points on 2016-05-14 00:33:47

My partner is my personal partner. No sane person is going to share their own parter with some random stranger. Bestiality is what you're looking for if you only care about sex, zoophilia's the wrong place to be.

Frostfedora Captain Esports 5 points on 2016-05-14 01:01:38

Zoophile communities are often bitter due to a lot of people wanting to distance themselves from people who are purely animal fetishists, so it can turn into a pissing contest of who's a REAL zoophile.

Anyway, this is the right subreddit to look for advice about this. /r/bestiality and /r/sexwithdogs are too porn oriented.

But you definitely do not want to try to hook up with strangers on the internet to have sex with their animals, because some police forces with too much time on their hands (ESPECIALLY in Arizona) set up stings to catch people. And the type of person who is trying to solicit women to have sex with their animals are not the type to care about your safety or if you get caught. If you're convicted of bestiality, you're pretty fucked in terms of attempting to own an animal and your name will be plastered all over the news.

Your best option is waiting for an opportunity to own an animal of your own despite the sexual frustration. It's not easy, but it's something a loooot of zoos have to go through.

Beastforum is trash, by the way, if that's the community you're referring to.

ursusem 1 point on 2016-05-14 02:12:03

You could also wind up meeting people who have lured you and their true intent is that they want to kill zoophiles and guess what would happen to you? It has happened before.

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Frostfedora Captain Esports 1 point on 2016-05-14 02:40:24

Uncalled for. Don't post comments like that in this subreddit.

ursusem 2 points on 2016-05-14 22:52:58

If you realize that animals aren't sex objects, then why do you think it is a good idea to find some random one and get busy with him? Isn't that "treating people like sex objects?" Isn't that like 'going up in the club' and finding some 'sexy piece of ass' to lay with that night for two minutes? It is regarding animals as sex objects. You're not looking for a loving relationship, you're looking for a lay. Wham bam thank you sir!

Susitar Canidae 2 points on 2016-05-13 23:52:06

Yeah, have some patience. Random guys offering you their dogs are likely to be creeps, yes. There's not much to do about it, I'm afraid.

30-30 amator equae 4 points on 2016-05-14 05:04:52

"Hey, I´m just some random person. Although you don´t know anything about me, I demand to hand me over your beloved animal so I can have my way with it; you, of course, should sod off so I can fulfill my self centered needs. You really should trust me for no reason and leave me alone with your animal mate, even if you can´t be sure I´m not getting violent on it or use a knife to cut it open so I can get off properly. I´ll just whine some more so you don´t realize I´m a cherrypicking egomaniac who wants the d, but not the duties and responsibilities involved with keeping and providing for an animal. I just want what I want, don´t bother me with actually wasting money or time on a filthy beast. Maybe I´ll sob a little more so nobody dares to tell me that my consumeristic mentality keeps me from working hard to be able to afford an animal of my own. I´ll intensify sobbing a bit more so you don´t tell me I should move to an environment where I could keep an animal when I´m whining about not being allowed to keep one where I live now.Hell, I just want to get laid...don´t expect me to change anything in my life for it, right? Who would do that shit for a few minutes of satisfying fetishistic needs, anyway, huh? I´m so selfcentered I don´t even realize how discriminating it is to expect others to "lend" their beloved partners to an unknown random person; only intolerant assholes would be insulted by me, just walking in and asking for someone to "borrow" his/her partner to me, right? I don´t respect anything but my sexual needs and even complain about the "creepy old dudes" that surface when I post creepy ads in an animal fetishist forum. I also don´t mind showing off my impatience here...we all know that impatience is the best "virtue" for someone dealing with animals. Why won´t nobody help me? Why won´t nobody increase his personal risk of getting blackmailed for having sex with an animal when I "find geezuz" after I had my ways with doggie, but suddenly start being repulsed by what I did, "repent" and call the police? I really can´t understand...isn´t an animal partner like my favorite brand of washing powder I just ask for somebody to share some when my store ran out of it? No, really, who would actually claim to "love" an animal and refuse sharing it with such a sexy 20f like me? Only a mentally ill person, right?"

Frostfedora Captain Esports 0 points on 2016-05-14 19:11:58

Your commitment to being an asshole is actually pretty impressive.

ursusem 6 points on 2016-05-14 19:20:30

It's true, though, that this OP appears to just want to have her way with some animal- and ANY animal- that isn't hers and that she really doesn't know or care about either. I find it to be a bizarre and really quite heartless request alright... She should probably keep this to just fantasy, right?

Frostfedora Captain Esports 5 points on 2016-05-14 19:47:36

When a non-zoo is looking for casual sex, that's seen as perfectly normal. It doesn't invalidate that they're capable of loving another person. When a zoo is looking for casual sex due to sexual frustration and the inability to own a dog (and without seeing animals as sex objects), they're seen as not a true zoo? I don't like the double standard.

It's perfectly possible to try to hook up with strangers on the internet for bestiality and still love dogs on an emotional level. Now, it's not a good idea, but it doesn't mean the OP is a bad person. Just young, horny, and not really weighing the consequences properly.

30-30 amator equae -1 points on 2016-05-14 23:37:14

When a non zoo tries to hook up for casual sex, it won´t lead to an arrest, to headlines and to undercover investigation on an online community...stop comparing things that have nothing to do with each other. I really wonder if you are for real,man... No, it´s NOT "perfectly possible" to hook up with strangers on the internet for bestiality and still love dogs on an emotional level. It should be obvious, even for you, that this is entirely about sex and not in the slightest bit about emotions. It really grinds my gears when a MOD tries to turn this subreddit that has become a safehaven and the last bastion for many into something that already is out there, way more populated and stuffed with likeminded people for the OP to beg for a hook up.

Seriously, this subreddit is an exception, it is special because it is NOT focused on the sex part and has become a last refuge for all participants who felt uncomfortable and underrepresented in any other "zoo" forum out there. This place is frequented by us because animal fetishsim does NOT have the upper hand in here, because the beastforum attitude is not welcome, because dubious elements aren´t left alone to be snug as a bug in a rug in here. Why do you want to destroy this exceptional status? Unlike you, I do read in the OP´s posts that the main purpose of this thread is indeed solely the sex part and nothing else.

Since no one can say what the OP is like, all various scenarios can unfold. The OP would not be the first one to run into legal trouble for trying to hook up online and potentially dragging down this entire sub with him/her; it has happened multiple times before. But if you really are willing to sacrifice this entire community, destroy our last refuge and fuck up big time for a random person, go on...it only reassures my views of you and your ineptness to live up to the responsibilities that are involved in being a mod in here. You should represent us...instead, your go rogue on us, as it seems. If this is a little fun game for you, you should really think about retiring.

Frostfedora Captain Esports 3 points on 2016-05-15 00:01:29

I'll continue to moderate the subreddit as it has always been moderated for 5 years and with the continued advice from my partner who had done nearly 100% of the moderation work on the subreddit before directly appointing me.

/r/zoophilia isn't going to become a smug pissing contest of who's a REAL zoophile under your narrow definition. It has never been that.

So here's what's happening-- I'm not stepping down, and if you don't like that, you can leave because I sure as fuck am not. And for all the complaining you do about how I'm not a suitable moderator for the subreddit, know that I was the one who argued in your defense to continue posting here after several users have PMed complaints about you being a dickhead.

Aluzky 1 point on 2016-05-15 09:26:42

It should be obvious, even for you, that this is entirely about sex and not in the slightest bit about emotions.

And so what if it is? It is a crime to want sex without emotional attachment? And FYI: You can have sex without emotional attachment and still love animals. Or have an animal partner and still have sex with other animals without loving them. Kinda how humans have non-emotional sex with other humans in open relationships.

You don't need to be an asshole to her.

30-30 amator equae 1 point on 2016-05-14 20:04:44

Well, technically I´m only an arsehole to some while you trump that easily with throwing the entire community in here under the bus in /r/drama....;)

dogsrgreat 1 point on 2016-05-16 21:16:55

You are in fact a total sphincter.

Aluzky 1 point on 2016-05-15 09:21:17

Why are you such an ass hole.

[deleted] 3 points on 2016-05-14 07:49:42

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wright-one ursidae canidae pantherinae 2 points on 2016-05-14 08:52:41

too true. people are mentioning the danger of a person the OP tries to hook up with might be a LEO, completely ignoring the possibility that the OP is a LEO .. <.<

either way, this is just a bad idea, even ignoring the fact that it's against the sub-reddit's sidebar rules.

Frostfedora Captain Esports 2 points on 2016-05-14 19:13:33

It's a gray area in terms of violating the subreddit's rules, but I'm giving it a clear since she asked for advice on what to do and because it's better than letting her get herself hurt or a criminal charge slapped on her record.

lakatoka -7 points on 2016-05-14 17:52:10

lol, look at all these morons bashing another fake "girl" :D ridonculous. people who fuck animals talk about fucking animals in a morally acceptable way? hey, fucktards, you fuck animals! we all are into that shit, so get off your high horse and crawl under it!

talking about "partners" when all you want is a dock dick inside you, THAT'S fucked up, not her trying to get some random john come up with a dog, you turds.

30-30 amator equae 5 points on 2016-05-14 18:04:32

Nice display of advanced idiocy, mate! Guess what, but for some people in here, their animal IS a partner, not just a live sex toy. Furthermore, I do not "fuck" my mare, I make love to her. I also don´t want "dock dick" (maybe cleaning your keyboard from all the semen spilt over it wanking to animal porn would help here...;) ), I´m hetero and not into dogs at all.

And no, "we´re" NOT "all into that shit", at least not in the same twisted way you seem to be "into it".

lakatoka 0 points on 2016-05-16 02:41:43

Go make love to your mare, you fucktard :) Coming from someone like you, your mental hogwash is just plan funny.

ursusem 2 points on 2016-05-14 18:58:47

Wow you really don't understand zoophilia- or at least some forms/varieties of it.

zetacola + Rum 2 points on 2016-05-14 21:26:27

I deal with the frustration by getting shitfaced.

ursusem 2 points on 2016-05-14 22:59:57

How inspiring.

Aluzky 1 point on 2016-05-15 09:16:08

My advice: Keep trying? Be specific and say that you don't want creepers or sex with humans or to be filmed. Some people do have male dogs and they don't mind sharing them without doing those.

I'm such a person, I allowed my k9 boyfriend (RIP) have sex with other humans, though, only with people I trust, not with random strangers. Look at Arizona, they are going after people who solicits sex with animals. You never know if the person who says that has an animal is willing to share is a cop or a rapists or worse. So, you better make sure that person is some one you can trust.

A safer option, is to make some zoophile friend and get to know them for several years. And maybe in 3 or more years one of them will trust you enough to let you do something with their animals. And you will probably know them well to know if they are trusteable or not.

And the ultimate safer options is getting your own animals.

dogsrgreat 1 point on 2016-05-16 21:24:38

Soliciting hookups is risky but it can be done safely and there are perfectly decent people who do hookups. I know through personal experience and that of certain of my friends. However, the worsening legal situation for zoos means you now probably need to spend years surfing the various online zoo hangouts to decode who and what you can trust. You also need generic knowledge about how to communicate online without unknowingly revealing your true identity and without breaking any local laws.

dogsrgreat 1 point on 2016-05-16 21:30:37

I should add that most people who arrange zoo hookups for women do so because they gain some sort of vicarious pleasure from your experience. There are a lot of men, me included, who feel it is a privilege to be involved in helping an attractive woman in an erotic adventure. If you find this creepy, however, you have to ask yourself what else the incentive would be for someone to help you, given what is at stake.

dogsrgreat 1 point on 2016-05-16 21:37:33

By the way, what exactly is the difference between a "creepy old dude" and a sugardaddy? Are you perhaps a little confused about what you want?https://m.reddit.com/r/SugarBaby/comments/4h2zwi/20f_sb_in_kansas_looking_for_a_fun_sd/

dogsrgreat 1 point on 2016-05-18 01:44:46

I realise the above comment sounds a little snippy coming on top of all the BS bullying that a couple of total assholes here have directed at you for no apparrnt reason. To clarify there are guys and even women who will help you with a hookup without expecting to get any action for thenselves. I guess most of those will want to watch. I personally could help you find someone trustworthy (even though I'm in the uk snd have no dog) but since your pleasure would be my reward i would be a little worried that you might think me old and pervy, at twice your age. If it went well for you, however, i would gain some satisfaction from rolling out the lifestyle to another happy participant.

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Hybernation- 0 points on 2016-05-19 16:26:39

Awww :( here's my advice to you...

Never go near animals and stop calling yourself a zoophile. People like you who only care to use an animal as a sex toy is what gives us a bad rap.

dogsrgreat 1 point on 2016-05-21 22:32:05

Who and what are you talking about? You seem to be trying too hard to prove something about yourself, but i just can't work out what it is.

Hybernation- 1 point on 2016-05-25 14:50:21

You must have nothing better to do than try and bother me.

[deleted] 1 point on 2016-05-20 19:02:34

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