Another innocent woman arrested for doing what she likes (self.zoophilia)
submitted 2016-05-17 15:46:54 by improbitas666

Came across this: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7144154/Woman-to-stand-trial-after-police-found-video-of-her-having-sex-with-a-pitbull-dog-on-her-mobile-after-suspecting-her-of-drug-dealing.html

News like this make me upset. This is a great example of how hypocrite world we live in. Based on the reports, she did not harm anyone. Smoking some weed and loving your dog is not something that should be punished. I mean, come on, more and more countries are legalizing or considering legalization, and bestiality is even legal in some states of the US. Also, a male dog can not be forced to have sex with a woman. They are just raging about a word. Ok, I understand, this is the law in Australia. Bestiality is a really powerful word, but it should not be confused with real animal love, which is Zoophilia. Basically the anti-zoophile people are the ones, who think that an animal is just an object, which has no feelings and no consent at all.

Sorry for the rant, interested in your thoughts too :)

dogsrgreat 1 point on 2016-05-17 16:25:40

Nice to see that reader comments so far (on the sun page) are broadly neutral, several being sympathetic.

IAmAZoophile Canine 7 points on 2016-05-17 17:14:24

"Under the Animal Care Protection Act bestiality isn’t included. To take action and remove the dog we would have to prove actions there were cruel or that it was tormented."

"The RSPCA would ideally like to get a dog out of the situation if bestiality was happening, but to operate under the act we would have to prove those two things."

"We’d try to do everything we can to help the dog if that is the case."

That seems like a very reasonable response from the RSPCA! I'm pretty impressed.

EDIT: That's assuming, of course, that the quote isn't just a thinly-veiled suggestion that all bestiality should be explicitly outlawed so that they have the power to act in these situations.

Also, this should serve as yet another reminder that it's irresponsible to record an animal engaging in a sex act with a human. It's just not worth the risk for anyone.

Frostfedora Captain Esports 3 points on 2016-05-17 19:36:15

The dog was subjected to the cruel act of getting its dick wet.

Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 1 point on 2016-05-18 13:22:35

It's due to the recent supreme court ruling abolishing the bestiality clauses due to bad writing, IIRC (basically, they forgot to include oral sex. Google it, though the case that spawned it is nasty shit). This loophole is in the process of being closed, and you are reading something that just happened in between.

zoozooz 14 points on 2016-05-17 17:32:08

Also, a male dog can not be forced to have sex with a woman.

Oh really?

improbitas666 2 points on 2016-05-18 09:17:19

Well, unless another person grabs his knot and makes him "dildog" her, when the dog is almost crying or feeling indifferent, no. Of course, there are cases like this, which I highly disagree with. I'm also against male human female animal zoophilia, because that looks much more like abuse. (That's only my opinion, don't flame me please). But male dogs basically hump everything from teddybears to naked women, and they sure love it af.

Sorry for not being precise :)

Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 5 points on 2016-05-18 13:24:34

That's only my opinion, don't flame me please

I won't flame you, just tell you you really need to get a broader world view than thinking female animals don't have sexual motivations as well.

peacheslala97 1 point on 2016-06-03 07:03:45

I disagree too. Male dogs can be forced as well. Wish more people understood this.

incognito-cognition 2 points on 2016-05-17 22:35:59

While I'm somewhat sympathetic, it's really stupid to film yourself, and even more stupid to carry the evidence around with you everywhere.

ZooMasil 3 points on 2016-05-17 23:51:00

Why is it that people seem to go easier on the accused when they happen to be "attractive" and female, also she's a drug dealer, so I think maybe the bestiality is the least of their worries.

Swibblestein 3 points on 2016-05-18 03:58:29

For the same reason that many men have less of a problem with lesbians than gays.

Much of the opposition to both homosexuality and zoophilia is based in a gut reaction which says "that's gross". Many guys are turned on by females having sex with animals (I don't much approve of the reasons they'll give to explain this, but that's a topic for another time), just as many guys are turned on by females having sex with other females.

Therefore the "ew, gross" reaction does not occur, and therefore neither does the moral judgment.

Further compounding this is the perception of males and females. In the eyes of many, it is hard to imagine a female rapist - especially if that female is being penetrated (compared to a female rapist using an object on her victim). The perception of males is that they are much more sexual, up for sex anytime, anywhere.

It is similar, in some sense, to the way that statutory rape is considered by many for the different sexes. A younger male and an older female: "Nice one!". A younger female and an older male: "How horrible, what a creep".

So yeah. The reasons make complete sense, unless you actually are looking for a rational reason why people feel this way... In which case I would have to say, you're a bit naive, expecting rationality on this subject!

(I don't mean to offend, just a bit of humor. Don't take it the wrong way)

Markius-Fox 1 point on 2016-05-18 09:42:06

Basically the anti-zoophile people are the ones, who think that an animal is just an object, which has no feelings and no consent at all.

There is a paradox in that reasoning, which could be considered a strawman of sorts. The the paradox being, if the people against bestiality and zoophilia do think of animals as only objects, then their argument saying the animal can not give consent is invalidated. An object can never give consent because it lacks the capacity to give consent yet those against zoophilia and bestiality use the consent argument to defend their position. It logically does not follow, and I doubt many who are against bestiality and zoophilia display this opinion.

Many argue that the animal can not give consent because of a lack of sapience, sentience, or both. The counter argument being that animals are, without a doubt, sentient, and that their sapience is slowly being reviewed by science, with many papers supporting the hypothesis that animals are sapient (appeal to authority). At this point, those against would fall back on religious text prohibiting the act (appeal to tradition) or that their emotional reaction to the act is justification enough to outlaw the act (appeal to emotion and appeal to tradition), any other arguments would likely mention morals which are often associated with religion, therefore making them appeals to tradition, emotion, authority, combinations of them, or all of them.

Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 1 point on 2016-05-18 17:09:10

I mean, come on, more and more countries are legalizing or considering legalization, and bestiality is even legal in some states of the US

A falling number, on all fronts.

30-30 amator equae 1 point on 2016-05-18 17:58:44

"...more and more countries are legalizing or considering legalization..." Where´s the entrance to the parallel universe this fella is dwelling in? Must´ve lived under a stone lying on the dark side of the moon the last 10 years,huh?

Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 1 point on 2016-05-18 22:38:58

I think it has more to do with intentional ignorance.

KelonjAllDay 1 point on 2016-05-18 21:25:59

Any links to her vids?

Hybernation- 1 point on 2016-05-27 23:11:07

Really?

KelonjAllDay 1 point on 2016-05-28 06:35:21

Yes.

Wulfle 2 points on 2016-05-19 07:07:34

Yeah, the ones who believe that an animal can't think or feel are the real rapists. They only take what they can get from an animal without any thought for them.

Eamonpro 2 points on 2016-05-29 15:07:43

The dog isn't doing it for pleasure. He's doing it because he wants to mate. She was tricking the dog into fucking her, and she was in the wrong. Jesus Christ, you people are like the people who would defend pedophilia if the kid was okay with it.