Got a message from a random redditor(not naming names) who said Aluzky was making a Zoophile rights website and would be discussing the portrayal of Zoophiles in the media, debates about Zoophile etiquette, the various stances on "fence hoping", proper care and treatment of ones partner, the pros and cons of "zoo porn" and other similar stuff. So I try to Google this and find this Tumblr thing with the following link: http://die-aluzky.tumblr.com and I read it honestly. Shouldn't this be illegal that they have what may or may not be /u/Aluzky's real name and location and address listed? What if someone were to actually do something to him? This can get people hurt or killed and it's not acceptable. Not to mention the lies posted on there. I stopped reading after a while because it was too stupid and vile. So what if you disagree go ahead but advocating for someone to be killed(one anonymous poster even said for /u/Aluzky to be raped for his views) is so wrong on some many levels! That being said I thought I should bring this too light and remind everyone that you should be very careful about your online activity and watch your security and such. Please be safe everyone and I hope I hope you don't mind my mentioning you in this post /u/Aluzky.
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It's not illegal because to most people we're criminals. Pointing out criminals is not generally illegal. Technically death threats may be but good luck prosecuting that.
It's vile, and we're aware of it. OpBeast recently tried to spam this reddit with that exact "notice." The best thing you can do is not "feed the beast" by going to their websites and stuff. Amonst other things, it may even be a security risk, especially if you post there or something without a strong VPN or TOR.
Then again, I am reminded that /u/30-30 was making gay-prison-rape jokes about /u/Aluzky on this very reddit. Even if you're against porn, that was so out of line I'm at a loss for words... It's depressing I know. It's the internet, not much you can do. Just take a deep breath and look at something else.
Yep, Tumblr used to allow plugins in the past which could track an anon messagers ip and whatnot so id be wary of that. However logically there's not really any point in using that unless you clearly make yourself stand out as a zoo on something they use, since the web traffic isn't going to be specifically zoophiles.
Ooooh, he made a gay joke......what happened to equality, rannoch? Me making jokes about heterosexuality: no one bats an eye. Me making one joke that´s directly aimed at this attention seeking, animal porn publishing disgrace for zoophiles and not at all at homosexuals in general: shit hits the fan. Come on, why is it wrong to joke about homosexuality? I thought it would be equality they´re after, not fucking privilege. Double standards,huh? Just switch positions for a second, okay, and assume a gay guy jokes about a zoophile...do you really think the zoophile would be equally protected from the gay community?
Out of line? You sure? Then you surely can explain what exactly was so horrible about my little joke. Or have I missed any new law prohibiting jokes about homosexual behavior in general? No, seriously...what was so horrible about my one-liner?
Oh, I forgot: the predominant hobby of special snowflakes is being appalled by literally anything. Complaining: when it gets olympic, you surely have a shot at gold.
But I digress: go on defending this Aluzky moron. His case is just another symptom of what is so fuckin´ wrong with our "community". He truly is a role model for the current status quo within the "zoo community" and a perfect example for all the reasons why this so called community , despite of all the efforts made, is basically nothing but a huge failure. Defend the guy who "needs citation" when he´s confronted with the scientifically proven fact that having sex with a minor is damaging to the kid.
Sombunall of you are dangerously close to the Drumpfsters out there: you build an alternate reality around you and whenever reality hits, you start whining and complaining.
But whatever...I ain´t got time for this bullshit, I´ve better things to do...
I´ll just repeat myself: "You always get the enemies you deserve"
It wasn't a gay joke. It was a. Prison. Rape. Joke.
There's a difference.
It's also not even illegal in his country at this time, but don't let that stop you from one of your psychopathic rants.
Personally, I have more respect for Aluzky at this point than you, and frankly, that's really sad.
I think you need to spend more time with your mares.
Gay jokes aren't inherently bad no, it depends on the delivery and the context. That goes for any joke. Add on that you are repeatedly an ass in most any thread you post and its pretty easy to see why people didn't take well to your joke.
Also, I want to point out that our community hasn't been a failure at all. Yeah, we're not accepted and the path to acceptance is still a long road to take, but this community(in context of reddit) has been around for a mere 6 years and we have not only spoken to and influenced a lot of outside individuals, but we have helped a lot of people who belong in this community where they previously felt like they don't belong anywhere, where wherever they turn they couldn't find anyone who really got what they were going through and who could show them that what they feel really isn't all that freakish or wrong as long as you go about it the right way. We have educated a lot of our own. I don't think you realize how big a role sexuality plays in mainstream culture, but you need to check into reality for a bit because it influences like everything.
As for you having better things to do, I assure you we wouldn't struggle to get by if you didn't want to come back so no worries :).
Well, you are making a lot of enemies here.
You 'joke' barely qualifies as such, and your blatant disrespect for other people isn't making you any friends either.
Aluzky may be flawed, but he is still a decent person.
Like I said before, please 30-30, try not to be a complete and utter arse for once.
Aluzky a "decent person"? Denying negative effects of child abuse in the underage victims makes you a decent person? U-huh....maybe the antis aren´t so wrong after all, "zoophilia" inevitably leads to pedophilia , child abuse and even worse things...
Is this what you want to be known for? Loudmouth Aluzky "needs citations" when someone states the scientifically correct facts of psychological harm that is inflicted on children when abused and you still defend this fucktard? We Germans have a word for this kind of irrational clinging to leaders/agitators/etc...it´s "Nibelungentreue".
If you all want to sink with him, well, go on defending him...although he has done so much harm to our public image by doing him shitty little comment wars on youtube.
Why should I try "not to be a complete and utter arse for once"? Name one reason why I should put velvet gloves on, just one... And, by the way, freedom also includes the freedom to disrespect anyone, regardless of any rational or irrational reasons. Or have I entered La-La-Land by logging in? Specialsnowflakestan?
As I have posted elsewhere: "Do you want change?" Zoos: "Yeah!!!" "Do YOU want to change at least a little bit to achieve this?" Zoos:" ...mumblemumble... , * ...intolerant...*, * Me? Change ? WOT,m8? $&%)=(/"
I didn't mention the threat because of a joke, saying you want to castrate and sodomize someone due to a disagreement over an opinion is not a joke. Neither is actively trying to track down said person.
at the very least, it should be against tumblr's rules and that particular page should get torn down (or at least that post removed).
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speaking of .. frankly, i can't believe anyone is still even reading 30-30's posts.
I have a cardinal law that says I don't ignore anyone. It came from "know they enemy" or something. It's being sorely tested as of late.
Hm......
edit: Wait, on this page are the quotes these "opbeast" people used in their video. They didn't even do their own "research", they just scrolled through this tumblr blog. Lol.
That's really by no means a surprise lol. That's how uninformed bigoted groups lobby against stuff. It's like the recreational marijuana opponents in a way--all the facts they circulate are complete bs but they read it on Facebook or some shit from the propaganda people they follow. There was a hilariously inaccurate anti pot commercial I saw over in /r/trees lately, it was outright ridiculous.
That's what that was about?
So I went to the tumblr (ergk I hate tumblr) and what I saw as a guy who is lashing out in frustration at zoophiles because he is (or used to be) one. Now to sell this idea here is a quote "and although i’ve had episodes of where I was attracted to animals, i took medicine and went to therapy to control it." poor guy has been drugged up by the system and made an angry shell of a person, that last bit some speculation on my part.
I'd heard of people being like that but seeing it? :( it's worse
The legality of doxing - releasing public information that allows for the identification of a person - varies from country to country. Some service operators won't disallow the practice, because things like names, addresses and phone numbers are considered public information in their respective jurisdiction.
So there's nothing to be done really?
I don't know the details or where the people involved are located.
The real defense against doxing consists in protecting your personal information. Once your personal information is out, you have already lost even if you manage to get the doxer in jail.
It's still very awful though, that people do this :(
Never heard of him but glad you're standing up for him. It's funny how irrational some people can be. I'm a vegetarian right? Well I was on a vegan group and someone made a post about zoophilia in Europe and everyone was commenting how it should be made illegal. I commented that veganism was ideal but that you could have consensual sex with non-humans. They went nuts and some even threatened me with death for even saying it. Some people just aren't rational I guess but we should defend ourselves from these irrational people.
Sadly most vegans tend to be highly irrational and too dumb to function. It's sad because there are those who are vegan but are smart. You would think they would be at least understanding about Zoophilia and how a caring person can make a positive difference in the life of an animal.
Exactly! Sadly many vegans are dogmatic. I think we could have a growing vegan community that accepts zoophilia though.
How do you mean exactly? What types of vegans seem supportive?
I just think we could get some vegans on board. I'm a vegetarian wishing to go vegan and I support zoophilia. There must be others or we could get some of them to accept zoophilia.
How would this go over civilly since there are a wide number of Zoophiles that also eat meat or hunt? I mean in the sense of then hunting with their partner or wanting to enjoy meat with their partner? Wouldn't that cause trouble?
In all honesty it would probably cause some trouble between some people. I have a solution to the meat eating part though. There are people who are working on lab grown meat. It would be cruelty free yet still be actual meat.
I feel this would be monumental in the long run for everyone.
Right? :D It would be so awesome. It would solve so many things and meat eaters could be happy whether human or not.
True peace in the world with everyone happy and no starving, positive thoughts are why I hope this happens
I hope so too. Because having cruelty free sushi every once in awhile would be nice.
The problem is that because of the strong hostility in those vegan and animal rights circles the people who do feel sympathetic to us probably just prefer not to say anything or else they would be ostracized themselves.
Miletski did write about how many (?) of the zoos she got to know said they worked in animal welfare/rights organizations, e.g. the humane society. Yet, the humane society is one of the most notorious to put out anti zoo propaganda. There are probably several people at the humane societies "in the know" but who prefer to not say anything and rather keep their job and don't endanger their zoo coworkers, but from the outside you just can't see whether there are any supporters...
We could make a vegan zoo community to have a place of support for vegan zoophiles. We need to start showing you can be vegan and zoo.