Trump is President We're In Trouble (self.zoophilia)
submitted 2016-11-10 14:57:55 by peacheslala97 19/F/Loves dogs and horses
He actually won and now I'm terrified that when the LGBT community is targeted that we will come up on the radar now. The religious fanatics are going to be screaming about us because of the Tumblr crowd. We will never get our rights now. We would've never gained rights with Hillary but maybe she could've been swayed aka bribed. Trump will never help us and this could cost us our lives and partners.
Edit: sorry for the typos I meant to say we wouldn't have gotten our rights with Hillary but with Trump we've been setback nearly 80 years.
I don't feel worse nor better off now than before the election myself. I am sure that I would have not been able to reclaim any meaningful right from any of the candidates.
Internet panic must stop, it benefits nobody but journalists.
I edited my post to correct a few mistakes.
The worst that can happen is that we do what we're all used to and go back to hiding.
I'm not so sure. This election has brought out a lot of hate from both sides.
Go "back" to hiding? Have you been telling all your friends and family? Because I certainly haven't.
As far as I'm concerned, speaking of zoophilia only on the Internet constitutes hiding.
Bad wording on my part.
But i have told two of my friends and my parents found out (not in a good way)
Again, panic over nothing.
It's not like we've got anything to lose anyways.
Seriously, there's zero chance of use moving forward.
Nothing will change.
I genuinely don't think anything bad is going to happen for zoophiles under Trump. Zoophilia is not a hot-button issue, and having a conservative government might result in changes to laws, but it's not going to change anyone's mind on LGBT (or Z) issues. America will get another democrat in office eventually, and the lost ground will be made back up.
Hillary wasn't even comfortable with gay rights, by all accounts. It's not like she would have been a shining beacon of tolerance for zoophiles.
There are reasons to be worried about Trump as president. I'm sure he'll be awful (which, this comment should in no way be construed as support for Hillary - I can't stand her either). But he won't be awful for Zoos in particular.
Now, the fact that we have a republican senate and house, and will soon have a republican supreme court... That, I do believe, is more worrisome with respect to LGBT rights.
Thank you for making the one post that makes sense. I'm sick of hearing both sides literally accuse the other's leadership of leading to "nuclear armegeddon"
The truth is much less exciting than that, though it is still bad.
Both of my grandfathers continually made predictions about the future - particularly about how this, that, or the other thing was going to cause all these terrible things to happen - major war, America to collapse, and so on. Their predictions never came true.
So I've become desensitized to "doom and gloom" predictions. Certainly, something awful will happen in the future eventually, but for every awful thing that does happen, I can bet you that a hundred thousand predictions of the end of the world will fail.
Predictions about something being good or bad tend to be reasonable, and I'd agree that in this case, "bad" seems like a reasonable direction to go. But cataclysmic predictions... not so much.
You´re all too focused on the big orange decoy...some names have come up during the day I´d be worried about a hellofa lot more...Giuliani and Palin, fuckin´ nutjob Palin... The GOP hasn´t stopped to be a party, Trumps entire political program (if you´d like to call it that) is almost completely opposed to the GOP´s, Trump even hasn´t enough personnel to fill out the 4K positions in second, third and fourth row.
Let´s face it, folks...you elected Trump, but you´ll get 99% of Tea Partyesque personnel in key positions. Brace yourselves if you don´t belong to the heterosexual white majority. Trumps presidency won´t be the world´s downfall, sure,I´ll admit that , but it would be foolish to think that nothing will change. Things will change, not because Trump, but because Pence,Giuliani,Palin, insert random extreme right winger name here
What you Americans will probably see the next few years is a struggle between the neocons and the ultracons and Trump is just the helpful fool to distract the public with his scandals while the real politicians will do business behind the scenes.
I can't tell if you realize that you're more or less agreeing with me, or if you think you're disagreeing with me.
I do realize I´m agreeing, but wanted to make clear the real bs will go down behind the scenes. Trump´s just a decoy and won´t survive two years in office without his own party backing him up. All those people think they voted Trump, but in fact they voted Tea Party, ultra right wingers.
Ah, okay. Sorry I couldn't tell. I wasn't sure if the original "you" was referring to me (singular you), or a plural "you".
I don't think zoophilia is all that high up on his list. Between immigration and ISIS, he already had a lot on his plate.
posts like this have been in every sub, seems best to downvote and ignore them.
Seems like everybody is freaking out. The guy has virtually nuked all his political connections, he'll be lucky if the Republicans even still support him
For zoophiles, I hardly think Clinton or Trump makes any difference.
I DO see a lot of other problems with him. He is a narcissist, isn't against torture, thinks climate change is made up and has no experience in politics. Add to that the common American conservative ideas about making abortions harder to get and setting back lgbt rights. I can't understand what people find so appealing with him. He is not your 'average joe', he is a spoiled millionaire with megalomania. I'm not an American, though. So I'm hoping no other country will be dragged down into the chaos that the US will become. Well, except that the climate doesn't care about national borders... That'll be a catastrophe.
But no politician, psychopath or not, will talk about zoophilia in a positive manner. So, as far as this particular subject is concerned, who sits in the White House doesn't really matter.
In case you hadn't noticed, bestiality has been made a little bit more illegal in the US in the past years. One state at a time. It doesn't matter if it's under Republican administration or Democrat administration.
I'd take this any day over the nuclear Armageddon Clinton's plans for Syria would have triggered.
What the hell did you expect?
You... seriously believe that?
Breitbart victim detected...
I seriously believe that Russia just evacuated 40 million people in a nuclear war drill. I also seriously believe Clinton's plan for a no-fly zone over Syria could have been the last straw that pushed these two nuclear superpowers into conflict.
But screw that, right? The real danger is Donald Trump, right? Because he said some mean, mean things! Jesus Christ. No wonder your country is so fucked.
Putin: former high ranked officer of the KGB, familiar with all kinds of clandestine tactics to make people walk where he wants them to. Trumps election team has had contacts to Russia, Russian paid hackers tried to influence the elections on social media etc....
Who won the election? Some say it´s Trump because he won the most EC , some say it´s Clinton because she got more votes in total. I say: Russia won. America lost, the progressive, diverse America, but also the conservative, white America. Welcome to the Soviet Republic of America...Putin´s newest Satellite state after Ukraine.
If Trump got elected, it's because a shit ton of American people hate Clinton. But you won't hear any of that. All you can hear is how great Clinton is and how perfect she is in every regard and and how much of a monster Trump is and blabla. All you heard during the elections is how things went "well" when the democrats were leading and how things went "bad" when the republicans were in the lead. Impartiality? Fuck that. Clinton is OBJECTIVELY the best. John Oliver says so, so it must be true. Forget about the fact that Times Warner owns 90% of mediatic outlets in the US and are partial to one party. They hold the objective truth... Mainstream media is completely and utterly biased. And if this election has shown us anything, it's how they are absolutely incapable of performing their job right. You have to talk to American people directly to even have a sense of what is going on for real. And even then, you have to find "angry, bigoted, privileged, poorly educated, heterosexual, cisgendered, sexually frustrated, white males" because all of the others are as biased as the media that spoon-feed them what they should think and feel.
A Trump presidency is a disaster. But it is a reflection of the disaster that is the Western world. Globalism has failed us. The political, financial and mediatic elite has failed us. It is high time for a reform. In my opinion, that reform should have been Paul in 2012, but the media circus made sure he never saw the light of day.
Trump has said so himself. Russia is a superpower and it makes sense to try and keep good relations with them. Clinton, just like Obama, just like Bush, just like the other Clinton, just like the other Bush (pretty insane to see political dynasties in what should be a democracy, uh?) wanted to involve the country in places where it absolutely does not belong to plant the seed of strife and capitalize on the subsequent conflict. But Trump is the bad guy because he wants to think of his own country's interests instead of pretending to care for others with his right hand and waging war with his left.
Politicians don't give a damn about anyone let alone this country.
No, the real danger is no danger. The real fear is a piss poor fiscal policy. (despite internet meme, Trump has never exactly been great with fiscal management).
Way worse happened in the cold war than "no fly zones" and evac drills. If you seriously believe what was going to start the next nuclear apocalypse was Clinton's no fly zone plans, well, wow.
Nothing flies in the Syrian sky except Syrian aircrafts and Russian aircrafts. Enforcing a no-fly zone over Syria pretty much means Americans are going to have to shoot down Russian aircrafts. Which, you know, can only end well.
The no-fly plans isn't the only thing that happened. The secretary of defense has threatened Russia for not respecting the ceasefire in Syria. The Democrats have blamed the Russians for the embarrassing leaks that harmed their campaign, and have even threatened the Russians with retaliation. None other than the vice president threatened Russia with acts of (cyber) war. Moscow does not take lightly to these threats. Especially since Madam Clinton also said that as president, she would treat cyber attacks just like any other attacks and retaliate with political, economical, and yes, military response.
If the Russian government, and its "war game" involving 40 million people, its plan of reopening old soviet bases in Cuba and Vietnam, its amendements to laws enabling them to hire new soldiers, its plan of positioning troops not 50 miles from Alaska isn't enough then you should probably know that the Russian media also makes pretty big deal out of the possibility of nuclear war. TV networks urged people to locate the nearest shelter in the event of a war. The media reports that Putin allegedly instructed his military to prepare for war if Clinton won and even urged the relative of his officials to fly back home immediately.
Despite his pretty words rooting for a world without nuclear weapons, Obama barely made a dent. In fact, Bush's administration did a better job at it. The "atomic revitalization" started under Obama is expected to cost up to 1 trillion dollars over the next years. But it's all just for show, I guess.
Russia has called the US missile defense system in Europe a direct threat. But it's okay, right? They're aimed at the middle east!...
I understand none of things mean war in the strict sense. But I think it's important to remember that the only policy Putin has is a "keep Putin in power" policy. And I have an itch that if this has to involve war, it will.
Yeah. I'm sure pouring trillions in the middle east and nuclear armament is the shining beacon of stellar fiscal policy.
I'm not going to reply to this beyond saying I really don't come here to to respond to political fearmongering. This whole reddit is guilty lately (including myself to a degree actaully), but we're way past the point where it got old, so I'm unsubbing from this not for lack of having a point, but for lack of wanting a headache.
You could have simply not replied.
But you didn't, because you just had to have the last word, uh?
In the end, it doesn't matter. Trump won.
Last word has nothing to do with it, I'm just outright sick of reading this apocalypse horseshit from both sides. I expected better of our own reddit but I guess that was a pipe dream.
Also, traditionally when one is obsessed with taking the last word, he doesn't implicate himself in the problem.
Look dude, I know you don't exactly like me. I get it. Don't let that blind you.
It's not primarily him I'm worried about it's his insane base.
Just like I'm worried about the batshit insane #notmypresident libtards who think people have to die for things to change.
There will always be crazy individuals. I'm just glad the people of the most powerful country of the planet have not elected one of them as president.
Ugh those people seriously won't shut up
I'm probably what you would consider a "libtard," but I do acknowledge that yes, he is our president. I mean Hillary did that for god sake. Man up.
I'd understand if their slogans read "not my vote." But face facts people. He is our president... for better or for worse.
All I have to say about that, is this will all be very interesting to look back on in 4 years.
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Libtards only believe in democracy when it goes THEIR way.
And the same could have been said if Clinton won.
Honestly, not really... I wouldn't have been interested, at any rate. Why? Clinton didn't have the underestimated fervor that Trump had behind him, which is why I consider this more interesting. She also didn't have near as many promises that he hasn't a snowballs chance in hell of fulfilling (though she, like any politician, had her largish number).
Most of all (and as a Trump supporter, you should know this), Clinton was more of the same. Trump is anything but. Whether that's a good or bad thing remains to be seen.
Oh, and somewhat of a tangent but:
"Democracy" went our way. The electoral college and the "republic" upon which America is built, did not.
As much as it may hurt Trump supporters to hear this, they won the election, but they are still the minority.
I more hate the fact that Hillary won the popular vote and still lost, didn't care who won both were terrible, But if more people voted for her I feel she should have won
I doubt anything will Chang for us and lets say for some reason we make it high on the people hate list. Just go off line, maybe its just that easy for me too do.
okay let's just let all the muslims in so they can rape and kill all the LGBT people.
there's many posts like this and you're all fear mongering with no logic behind it.
If all of syria just teleported into the USA at once, I doubt there'd be enough to have a meaningful impact on the crime rate vs the average angry, white, bigoted male. Not worth worrying about.
Uh, ok...
And what crimes have the "angry, white, bigoted males" committed? Hurting your feelings?
Well, just today I saw https://archive.fo/6yVBm
I just love how you immediately assumed the ones responsible were white.
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Gold. I really wonder if LGBT people still thinks this statement is true when it comes to zoophiles.
Not much, which was part of my point.
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Hey folks, I just wanted to add a little bit of positivity as a counterweight to all of this mess....Joe Arpaio has been kicked out of his position!
On the other hand
i worry more on the things about the global warming denying he's been doing. or the antivax support, or his general lack of understanding what science does.
He stated he wanted to create jobs, and help the American people. I cant but stop thinking about that fraud he all done. I think its still all hot air... only time will tell.
However, that said, I don't trust Clinton either, she wouldn't care either if depleted uranium would be used in warfare. She already has received support from big corp, so that would only have given more problems.
I do hope tho that trump kills TTIP or whatever its called these days, that's gonna be one good thing he would do.
As of bestiality, sorry, dream on, wont be accepted anytime soon. and honestly, I don't want it to.
Irrelevant and fear mongering.
Election´s over, no need to keep talking about Trump´s campaign anymore...;)
Cute, doesn't change the point I was making.
I'm not trying to fear monger but since Republicans control EVERYTHING now things could get worse than usual for the next four to eight years.
Dude, literally nothing has changed or will change.
Trump of all people is the least of our worries.
Maybe so but the religious nuts are a problem you know how they are
Honestly I doubt anything will happen. You all are still largely underground and away from the public eye. It will take a couple decades before liberals embrace sexual mores that include acceptance of bestiality. But hang I'm there; assuming you all are young Millenials, acceptance will happen in your lifetime.
Somedays I think this will happen and others.......well not so much but I want to be optimistic.
Im more terrified of new technologies that include brain reading,(visual interpretations of the brains active thoughts) than I am of trump and his huge supporters.
Could you imagine what kind of world it will be to not be able to have sick thoughts as we all do? Thats when I and many others will be terrified.
That's really a thing? Reading brains? When was this mentioned?
Just my dumb perspective on things. And there are new cutting edge tech machines that can somewhat see what our minds see, but not the extent of full fledged pictures. Looks more like ink blotches at the pre-stages of development its at. Im just adding my opinion that for me, it would be more terrifying for brain reading machines than a political new leader. Thats all. Don't be scared of my dumb sentence. >_<
Ok lol?
what the hell are you actually on about?
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They already don't want us