Loss of a loved one (self.zoophilia)
submitted 2016-12-07 04:36:50 by myloverhasfur Canidae

Hey all,

My beloved family pet and friend of 13 years passed away this Sunday. I was able to see him one last time this Thanksgiving break. Since I'm currently away at school, I don't think the reality has really hit me yet. Winter break will probably be tough.

[deleted] 5 points on 2016-12-07 06:06:37

Sorry for your loss.

\*Big Internet hug\*

TheShotmeister 3 points on 2016-12-07 07:54:20

Hey, I'm sorry to hear that :(

G_Shepherd fluffy wuffy 2 points on 2016-12-07 11:32:12

I'm sorry to hear offers hugs

tencendur_ Neeeigh 2 points on 2016-12-07 14:41:28

I am really sorry to hear.

Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 2 points on 2016-12-07 19:50:46

I am sorry for your loss. Words don't mean much, but memories do. Keep them close. Good luck.

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AmoreBestia Et scientiam! 3 points on 2016-12-08 17:10:15
  1. You're assuming that OP performed penetrative sex with the dog, and that OP is male. It's just as possible that his friend was male and OP is female. Or it could be that they're both female.
  1. You're assuming penetrative sex happened at all. Statistically speaking, zoos that carry out sexual acts with nonhumans(30% of them) are 65% more likely to simply masturbate their nonhuman partners than perform penetrative sex, so it's more likely that OP DIDN'T make the nonhuman get 'its ass forced open'.
  1. You're assuming that OP doesn't value the agency of nonhumans in sexual interactions. Zoos, as a rule of thumb, value agency in their partners. Non-zoo bestialists and fetishists are the ones you'd want to worry about(more often, but certainly not always)... and OP doesn't seem to be either of those. Consent needn't be verbal, and unless you want to make a case that all sex between nonhumans is actually rape, you miight want to reevaluate your thinking.
  1. You're assuming that they engaged in sex at all. It's more likely that they did not and that he never will with a nonhuman.

sigh But you're just here to get a rise out of people and engage in general assholery. Maybe it's just to be a dick, or more nobly, in its own twisted way to enforce your own beliefs. Anything I say won't really change how you perceive this community, because you're so entrenched in your own preconceived notions that you wouldn't even think of giving the words of someone in this community credence. Of course, I'm a tad bit of an interloper, myself, but membership by association and all. You don't really care enough about the goings on here to try to understand the situation, so good day to you.

... and don't come back.

^^oh ^^and ^^humans ^^are ^^animals ^^btw.

Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 2 points on 2016-12-08 17:45:52

Thanks for taking the sensible response to hatred. Bravo.

AmoreBestia Et scientiam! 1 point on 2016-12-08 17:47:59

Yeah, well, it's more symbolic than anything. That account of his was made for the sole purpose of trolling furries and zoos by association.

Valiant1204 Now with added gay! 2 points on 2016-12-08 17:49:52

Checking through his comment history reveals a large amount, he has posted everywhere negatively.

Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 1 point on 2016-12-08 17:49:57

No doubt. I just like to see maturity in general in response to hatred, and it's so hard to do I must admit. (actually, I may have just moments earlier failed to do exactly what I'm praising you for... lol. So easy to fall into that).

30-30 amator equae 1 point on 2016-12-08 18:26:54

I would have preferred the "silence is golden" approach instead. You know, nothing in this world will change the hatred of some. Mature reasoning might look like an answer, but it also won´t change a fucking thing for us. Or them. The worst is: our little troll isn´t completely wrong with his accusations. The vast majority of bestialists/"zoophiles" are homo- or bisexual. So, his picture of "zoophilia" may not be as wrong as you all like it to be. I still want to know why there is such a disproportional overrepresentation of homo- and bisexuals in "zoophilia" and nobody has provided an answer to this yet.

We shouldn´t make the same mistake as the neo LGBT crowd and expect a world in which nobody ever will throw hatred at us, this just won´t happen. You can campaign for legality, but you cannot make other people think the way it suits you the best, you know. Just let him/her/apache helicopter embarrass him-/herself....it´s quite convenient for me when my enemy clearly identifies himself. The ones that are really dangerous are the ones who play your ally, but sabotage anything from within.

We´ve been visited by yet another one of those hatemongers and I really want to know what mindset lets someone enter our pervo domain just to spread his hate on us...as if that is new to anyone who´s longer into zoophilia than three days. Hey, hatehole, we´re used to that kind of approach and your post isn´t unique. You could at least try to be more original with your insults. If that is the best you have to offer, you´re pathetic...;)

P.S.: How long until this community realizes how important it is to clearly separate between beasties and genuine zoos? Debunking accusatory posts by saying "You´re talking about bestialists, not zoophiles" is totally in vain without a proper separation between those two that is CLEARLY and LOUDLY communicated and executed in the outside world as well as in our own community. Stop cherrypicking, for gods sake. Either there IS a difference and we expel all the beasties from the zoo or we really cannot complain about others mixing bestiality with zoophilia. How should THEY know the difference when we ourselves don´t seem to know it?

AmoreBestia Et scientiam! 1 point on 2016-12-08 20:09:29

Zoos can be and are bestialists at times, and we have stats on it, which you know, of course. It'd be foolish to bar them on that basis but that's not the idea. A big part of this sub is the idea that agency in nonhumans is critical, which the stats also support.. I'll concede that I didn't clarify the difference between the two perfectly, but... they made this account specifically for trolling, and no amount of persuasion and fine-tuned verbiage will make him rethink things, we can both agree on that. I didn't do this to make him rethink things, or even to accomplish anything in particular. I did it because I felt like it, and that's all the reason I need to do something that's ostensibly good, either way.

So, his picture of "zoophilia" may not be as wrong as you all like it to be. I still want to know why there is such a disproportional overrepresentation of homo- and bisexuals in "zoophilia" and nobody has provided an answer to this yet.

Could be the herd instinct bias at work. Most people would trend to the assumption that they are heterosexual in spite of being bisexual, because that's the norm and people are still not very inclined to deviate. That's one of the issues with surveys, you get numbers, but they may not be accurate numbers, since you're dealing with something that is going to be interpreted subjectively, and with the herd bias at play. People might be afraid to put it on paper at all, too. Hell, I know for a fact that I'm bisexual, AT LEAST, but you can be damn certain that I'm putting down heterosexual on a normal survey. With the surveys that zoos get... They're already admitting to having a taste for forbidden fruit, so to speak, so there's no reason for them to try convincing themselves or others that they're free of a lesser evil, for lack of a better word. If we assume for a moment that people taking zoo surveys are more inclined to falsely identify as a 'deviant' sexuality, and that general surveys are more inclined to falsely identify heterosexuality, we've got a much greater margin for similarity. It's still outside any reasonable margin of error, but I think the difference isn't as great as we think.

Another potential explanation would be a behavioral prezygotic reproductive barrier being 'broken', or weakened and expanding the margins of attractiveness to those individuals... but it doesn't work perfectly since it would seem that a good number of species can be nudged toward attraction to members of other species as well, with varying degrees of success, granted, but it can be done.

I think, too, that we have to consider, again, that our numbers are skewed. Probably way, way worse than we think. How many people simply keep it a secret and avoid communities like these? And, what if those people are disproportionately heterosexual? I mean, it would make sense that they'd avoid it, then. They've got the 'ideal orientation' and, you know, they can go about their lives, assuming they find humans attractive sexually and/or romantically, and pretend that those other attractions aren't there at all. So... yeah, if you're already heterosexual the path of least resistance is to just live out a normal life, ain't it?

I think that women are generally less inclined to openly participate in communities that have a sexual component, and less inclined in general to participate in online communities, I feel, due to the 'proper woman" culture still being a thing.

So... our numbers are probably pretty shitty, all in all. I don't think they're entirely inaccurate as they relate to opinions and sentiments, but... well, you know.

Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 1 point on 2016-12-09 00:40:04

The vast majority of bestialists/"zoophiles" are homo- or bisexual.

[Citation needed]

I do know for a fact that even amonst that group, being a "bottom" is far more common. But I won't bandie that about as fact without any evidence like you do.

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Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 1 point on 2016-12-09 03:41:47

Thank you. I wasn't exactly in denial of the claim, I just don't like claims with no source.

tencendur_ Neeeigh 1 point on 2016-12-08 23:26:55

Wasting time with trolls can be entertaining, but it is still wasting time.

AmoreBestia Et scientiam! 1 point on 2016-12-08 23:28:57

Eh? I enjoy doing it. This is like playing video games to me. :P

Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 1 point on 2016-12-08 17:43:59

Reported. Also, see other comment. So many assumptions in your post (more than a few of which I know to be false) that it's not even funny.

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Valiant1204 Now with added gay! 2 points on 2016-12-09 03:02:29

All hail Sir Shithead, Lord of uber-super-straight castle, Knight of Stonecold-heart

Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 1 point on 2016-12-09 03:15:41

I lol'd.

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