Are we doing anything about Knotty? (self.zoophilia)
submitted 2016-12-23 09:13:07 by Lateoss Mares :P

Hey guys, some of you here may recognize me, I dont post a whole lot, but I was just curious if anyone had any info on this.

Its been a while that Knotty has been down now, and of course we dont even own the domain anymore. I know that there were no plans to bring it back at all, but what exactly is going on, are we just gonna keep using this subreddit?

tencendur_ Neeeigh 1 point on 2016-12-23 11:26:26

This sub looks like as good a place as any other. Actually, it is very sane when compared to the darkness that exists out there.

A social board, with members that were accepted only by invitation, would be interesting. I have played with the technical side of it, but I would not host something like that in any of my networks. I have also played with the idea of bringing an onion or i2p hidden service up, but since I don't think there is much interest I have parked the idea.

WarCanine Love knows no boundaries between species or gender 2 points on 2016-12-23 12:05:15

This sub looks like as good a place as any other. Actually, it is very sane when compared to the darkness that exists out there.

You think?
I hate being compared to pedos, but that 'pedofriends' sub just got banned for giving advice about child sex, even if it was stated in the sub's rules that it was not allowed.
(I Think?)


Some people in this sub, including me, give advice for having sex with animals, or, kind of at least.
But that also puts this sub at risk as we are treated the same as pedos.


Y'never know, this sub might be gone in a blink tomorrow.
And even worse, badmins giving out certain information.

Lefthandedsock 0 points on 2016-12-23 22:11:20

We're not the same as pedos, nor does anyone view us with the same severity as pedos are seen with.

Battlecrops cat kisser extraordinaire 3 points on 2016-12-23 23:38:26

I've seen plenty of people who consider zoophilia and bestiality on the exact same level as pedophilia and child molestation. So yeah, it does happen.

WarCanine Love knows no boundaries between species or gender 2 points on 2016-12-24 15:50:10

Yeah, we're not the same as pedos, but we are treated the same as them.
How do you not see this?
According to the herd, both of our interests cannot give consent, defend themselves, understand what is going on and are forced into a relationship.
And apparently we're all sick, twisted and should never be able touch an animal/child.


Which is sad, because pedos deserve this hate, but not us.
Ugh, the thought of being the same as them almost makes me throw up.

Lefthandedsock 2 points on 2016-12-24 15:55:44

The same words are used, but with less severity in my opinion. People hate zoos because "ew, gross," but they hate pedos because "touch my kid or any kid I know, and I'll fucking murder you."

WarCanine Love knows no boundaries between species or gender 1 point on 2016-12-24 16:04:06

No.
People hate us because of the reasons I've mentioned.
It's always the ''You're a sick rapist'' reason.
Honestly, they also hate us because of the ''toch mine n i kil u fgt'' reason.
I mean, not even I would trust any of you with my bitch.

Lefthandedsock 2 points on 2016-12-24 17:06:17

Alright, this is going nowhere. Have a good day.

zoo_away 1 point on 2016-12-23 21:54:35

random thought: you might find yourself in a situation where you would decide that the information on the board you make is completely publically visible (not the user emails and passwords, but all the posts they make), while membership and priviledge to post is based on the invitation only idea (I also pondered that).

Because if you wall off what is going on inside of your black box you are only inviting massive interest by anti groups and investigative agencies to check if its not underage porn and 'stuff'.

tencendur_ Neeeigh 1 point on 2016-12-25 19:35:41

You can grab the interest of adversaries anyway in regular platforms, since even regular platforms usually allow to send private content. As far as an adversary is concerned, there could be a hidden network of evil sex traffickers using the private messaging functions of your forum for coordinating their malicious activity.

I have heard that forces from the United Kingdom once blasted a legit chat platform because they had reasons to think that some cyberterrorists from Anonymous where coordinating dos attacks in one of the chat rooms.

Lateoss Mares :P 3 points on 2016-12-24 00:02:32

Honestly I think the subreddit isnt bad at all, of course we get a few questionable posts here and there, but for the most part it was the same on knotty. The only reason I personally found Knotty to be better was that someone cant just stumble across Knotty and start viewing all the posts, one had to create an account to join, which in a way was of course good and bad.

2580741 1 point on 2016-12-27 17:21:41

A social board, with members that were accepted only by invitation, would be interesting.

There is /r/zoogold, but that place is dead in the water, despite zoroasterthecat trying to revive it a few months back. No discussion occurs, it's just all introduction posts.

tencendur_ Neeeigh 1 point on 2016-12-28 12:31:06

The issue there is that it is a zooboard in a web service that already has a zooboard. It must compete with /r/zoophilia, which already has an established userbase. It is not bound to greatness.

TokenHorseGuy 1 point on 2016-12-24 02:22:39

Does anyone know of trustworthy anonymous phpbb and DNS hosting? That was the concern with knotty. Answering that question could probably bring it back.

Rannoch2002 Deer Zoo 1 point on 2016-12-24 07:59:36

Only person I knew with access to such things has disappeared as of late. If you are who I think you are, you already know what I said on that front.

the_egoldstein 1 point on 2016-12-25 16:02:07

Both can be had with a little effort. A lot of small hosting companes don't verify billing info and will accept "gift card" credit cards as payment. They don't care if the name is "Ben Dover" or the address is "1060 W Addison Chicago", they just want the money.

DNS can be a little trickier, but most providers these days will be a proxy for your domain registration too if that's desired.

tencendur_ Neeeigh 1 point on 2016-12-25 19:29:00

Providers that "proxy" your DNS are the legal owners of the domain, which means you are renting the domain instead of buying it. Besides, they have your personal data (if you provided it) and don't mind sharing it. They just make trivial disclosure of private information by curious people and bots harder.

duskwuff 1 point on 2016-12-25 21:32:59

No, that's not true anymore. Some registrars used to operate that way, but ICANN has cracked down on the practice; domains you purchase are now required to be treated as your property, regardless of whose name appears on the WHOIS.

tencendur_ Neeeigh 1 point on 2016-12-25 23:37:39

That is good news indeed.

CantThinkOfAName2017 1 point on 2016-12-27 01:12:32

The only way to safely run a website is if you host it yourself.

tencendur_ Neeeigh 1 point on 2016-12-28 15:58:22

Yes and no.

If you host the site yourself, you know how honest the site administrator is and how safely the data of the users is handled. However, all the user data can be retrieved by thieves stealing the equipment, of by a random cop with a court warrant. In addition, running the site on you own ensures that everybody will know that you are hosting such a site. That is not a good thing.

You can self-host and mitigate the shortcomings in different ways, but the fact you have to mitigate them proves they are shortcomings.

tencendur_ Neeeigh 1 point on 2016-12-30 12:21:58

Brainstorming: Is anybody interested in joining a bitmessage channel? I can set one up if there is interest enough. Those things work much like a web forum, but without the web part.