[Discussion] How does being a zoo affect your daily life? How does it affect your life outside of your relationship with your partner(s)? (self.zoophilia)
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You feel like a secret agent. Letting your secret out could be a death sentence.
Pretty much.
Being a secret agent is a lot less fun than it sounds, though.
Well, at least you save money on spy equipment, right?
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no...
LOL darn
Not if you enjoy the spy equipment. They'll make you pay thousands for it, spend time in prison and put you on some offender list.
If I didn't like razor wire so much I'd be able to play with it and squeeze their necks so hard their heads would pop like a zit. In fact, I'd probably get paid for it if I didn't enjoy doing it.
Yep. Letting the wrong people into your life is like letting a bubonic plague victim deposit semen in your snatch.
Treat you're sexuality as if everyone is acutely diseased...or an anti-zoo. Wear a full body condom when you interact with them or better yet do not interact with them at all. Have them give a full blood work report as proof that they do not have the Anti-zoo.
Life is already difficult enough having to avoid the previous diseases. Now were being forced to be super super secret agents.
What freaks made it the law, normal, and socially acceptable to spread anti-animal sex? I'm sure it's very damaging to society when sex-stigma becomes the next plague of sexually transmitted disease that doesn't even have to touch anybody to infect and destroy lives.
We already have and can make medication for all the other diseases. I don't even think burning by fire could eradicate the sex-stigmas of people who have sex with animals, because the stigma is just another genetically modified (created as a social "biological" weapon) monkey disease.
Worse, the wrong people may appear to be just normal people until they catch on to something about you, or you offend them in some unrelated way, etc.
And not the James Bond variety, I bet.
I agree, certainly for most people it involves some level of "double life" and therefore attention to privacy. Plus the usual strange-orientation stuff, feeling out of place about some of the supposedly most basic urges in the human experience.
On the other hand, it does provide interesting insight into aspects of life one might otherwise not question.
Out of curiosity, are there any insights you've learned that you would like to share?
It's more a frame of reference than a distinct experience. Just like if you travel abroad you are able to see subtle differences in social behavior and wonder why/how those are embraced where others are not... I think it's enabled me to see some of the irony/futility/silliness in usual male-female human pairings from a more objective point of view. It has led me to try to understand animals and subtle forms of communication whereas otherwise I may not have done so to the same extent. I pay attention more closely to human-animal interaction more than I otherwise might, and I see animals as far more complex than most people give credit for. It has also helped me recognize humanity exhibiting "animal" behavior... things that happen when you don't take for granted the human-human context... I'm rambling.
Not to say that this is the ONLY way such things can happen, just that it is one pathway into such insight.
Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks for sharing!
Because I'm a zoo I feel out of place.
It's also bothering when people talk about sex I have to avoid the discussion.
I feel that I think more about my actions and other's actions.
Since we're discriminated against, I don't want to accidentally or purposely do it to someone else.
And I also try to avoid the sheep mentality.
If a lot of people like or dislike something, I will give it a chance.
And like the others said, you'll have to keep it a secret.
Being a zoo hurts my image because young people suspect me of being an 'animal pedo' or 'gay.' (Seriously? Is zoophile that much of an alien word?)
There's probably more things that I do because I'm a zoo, but I wouldn't know since I've never really lived that life of not being a zoo.
....Oh, and of course, I spend time staring at dog's asses.
I've found a lot of fire in my heart for numerous underdog causes. Whether my involvement with zoophilia is a product of this inherent trait in me, or whether this trait in me is a response to my zoophilia, I can't really say.
LOL. Reminds me of a letter someone once wrote to Dan Savage (the columnist behind "Savage Love," which appears in quite a few liberal papers). "When I see someone walking a dog, I'm not looking at the one holding the leash..."
Sorry to hear that. I wouldn't say it's an alien word in my experience, but I was raised on the internet, so...
It's fine.
It's actually funny because they're right.
Well, not the weird names they used for 'zoophile.' But y'know what I mean.
I wrote that letter. Mr. Savage's response helped me immensely at the time and significantly impacted the course of my life afterwards. I will always be grateful to Mr. Savage for the compassion he showed me. It allowed me to eventually find acceptance, from myself and others.
Wow, that's awesome! I'm glad he was able to help you. I'm a big fan of Mr. Savage. :)
I don't feel like it much affects me. I just socially identify as asexual spectrum, and otherwise I just be myself haha. I still make friends just fine, I have no problems taking my pets out with me or anything like that and I don't have any real atypical disdain for society despite some of the unfortunate realities (in regard to and beyond zoophilia) we live in.
As long as you don't simultaneously grumble about being lonely, that could work.
Actually being asexual spectrum with people certainly helps heh. I'm Demi(though I was zoo exclusive until I felt my first human attraction at 20) so not totally there but pretty much. My dogs and my friends do a good job of keeping me from feeling lonely. Being single has lots of perks especially at a young age.
Identifying as asexual sounds like it makes things a lot easier (if you're exclusive, of course).
Plus, when someone says "I love my dog(s)," no one thinks twice.
It does not affect my daily life out of my relationships at all.
People here are talking about a change in mindset regarding keeping their privacy. I have always been very privacy conscious, and adding another secret to the mix is barely a change.
My attitude towards privacy is quite similar to yours. To me, sexuality has never been something to discuss openly in public, regardless of sexual preference. In fact, I've never felt the need to define myself by my sexuality. Thus, adding my relationship to my mare to the various facets of my personality hasn't changed my public image or the way I interact with people. As a person with a strong focus on career, I make a clear distinction between my private and my professional life. Accordingly, most people I deal with, be it employees or customers, aren't even aware of my devotion to horses, nor do they know about the rest of my leisure time activities. And, to be honest, there's no obvious reason why I should be sharing this information with them. The same applies to my family and friends. Based on what is socially appropriate in a given situation, I try to convey a most favorable image of myself, rather than exposing myself by confronting them with the more disturbing aspects of my personality. My true self is something that I only share with "the inner circle" – my parents and a selected number of close friends. To me, this kind of behavior is not specific for the way I deal with my sexual orientation. Rather, it's based upon the insight that keeping control of the information you reveal about yourself gives you the power to control and manipulate the way others perceive you.
"Keeping control of the information you reveal about yourself" is well and good (so long as you can keep it up), but if you tell one group of people one thing, and tell another group of people another thing, that starts to get into "double life" territory, which results in needing to worry more about privacy. Unrelated to discussing it publicly, at work, etc.
Many people have close friends with whom topics like being lonely, having a heartwarming experience, finding a relationship partner, etc., provide mutually satisfying topics of discussion. If that were of complete disinterest to us, we probably wouldn't be here talking about it online.
This might be an issue, if things start getting out of hand. Nevertheless, it works quite well for me at the moment.
By the way, have you already received a reply from 30-30 on what he refers to as his "method" or "strategy"? He's been hinting at this several times in the past, but never chose to expand on it in detail. Thus, I'm just curious if he's provided you with the detailed information you requested.
The issue is that by the time you see things getting out of hand, it may be too late. See this very group, with concerns about doxxing. Let alone just accidentally mentioning identifying information.
I'm not saying it ALWAYS turns out bad, just that it forces people to be very cautious, all the time, which is an extra layer of social taxing that others don't need to deal with.
So far I have not heard back on the "method."
Having multiple identities is not a problem at all. It just requires discipline. It is particularly easy online. You just boot up an identity for each task you need to accomplish that uses its own set of non-shared resources - email accounts, forum accounts and so on - and you only use such an identity for touching subjects related to such tasks.
It is very easy. When I am tencendur_ I don't talk about what I do under any other identity I use. When I am any other person, I don't talk about tencendur_.
Since I must be using a dozen separate identities at once, adding tencendur_ to the mix is barely noticeable.
As for privacy in meatspace, I just share nothing with anybody who does not need to know. In fact I even have friends that don't know my full name or have reliable means to locate me out of the environments we meet each other with.
Okay, but I assume you agree that by definition it adds a layer of complexity to do that filtering. Great for you if that layer of effort is minimal for you, but that doesn't mean it's minimal for everyone.
Similar to the old story of "I don't see what the problem is with society hating me, I just ignore what everyone else thinks," I think some people just tend to keep other people/groups at arm's length. Others would find that way of life foreign and lacking.
Also having to self-monitor one's actions all the time means a zoo is more likely to experience anxiety and stress than a non-zoo.
Probably a good habit to keep regardless of your orientation, honestly.
If there wasn't so much at stake for the Nepotism involved in zoophilia, zoos might not have to hide like they do currently.
As long as people use and treat animals like a bargaining chip, things will not change. Bartering sex with animals for jobs, money, other special benefits... Get the picture? Of course it affects people when degenerates are acting like mobsters. It affects the life of anyone who is not involved in the sex trade. Decent people fall behind and lose their jobs, homes, properties, animals etc.
How does it affect me? I don't enjoy living around people who would sell their children, their animal, or their own ass for tax breaks, raises, and other special benefits. I don't enjoy living around people who force others to provide sexual favors in return for salvation.
How does it affect my relationships? I don't have many because I don't enjoy associating with or living around people who would blackmail or harass me for refusing to participate in their Nepotistic prostitution AKA "monkey sex." I wouldn't pawn my animals or have sex for stuff. I don't want a relationship based on those disease ridden values.
I'm thankful that I have an understanding partner who's tolerant of my orientation. Not the same as being supportive, or rather, not as supportive as my fantasies play out...I've got a few people I'm out to and pretty confident that my life wouldn't crater if my friend circle found out... The only times I've been worried is the once or twice someone literally insane was close enough to me to bring my worlds together Nothing has happened yet, but that's the one place I'm concerned.
Good to hear you have an understanding partner. Hopefully that crazy person leaves you alone. :/
The only time it really stresses me lately is I have a very close best friend who doesn't know, and I'm too afraid of losing the friendship to tell her :( She's not the type who would out me and ruin my life over it or anything, but I can't tell if she would be uncomfortable enough to not be my friend anymore. And that's a real shitty feeling.
I can see how that would be stressful. :( Sorry to hear.
This kind of situation always grates on me too. Of course the idealists will say "if someone drops you because of this, they weren't a good friend in the first place." I imagine those people don't have many friends.
Not being able to talk about it socially is difficult. The taboo and stigma associated with it means one isn't able to bring it up in conversation. It is also difficult to have to always hide one's zoosexual feelings. Society's intolerance to zoo makes things difficult.
It is difficult reading the news online and seeing at least one person caught or arrested somewhere in the world each week (for having sex with an animal). It is also difficult watching as more and more anti-zoo laws are created (especially in the U.S. -- New Hampshire and Ohio banned sex with animals last year, and Kentucky and Texas have anti-zoo bills this year). There is a feeling of helplessness as all of these bad laws get passed.
It is difficult reading hateful and hurtful anti-zoo comments left on Change.org petitions, with words such as "sick" and "disgusting".
And for those who are sexually active with non-humans, there is always paranoia about being caught.
Definitely understandable on both of those points. :/
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