YAY. But just for curiosities sake, ABOUT where are you located?

And why don't anti-zoos ever question the "psychological harm" (potentially) done to animals who are artificially inseminated, or slaughtered in terrible conditions? What about the psychological harm done to a deer that is hunted?

They do. Just, it serves a material purpose. Try finding someone that won't support better living conditions for farm animals.

I can see how they could be misled, however people like Edwards (who clearly have an anti-zoo bias and agenda) should not be trusted to produce reliable data.

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you can't assess it accurately. I don't like the republican agenda, for instance, but I can still be rational about it and assess it pretty accurately. A person's feelings on the matter needn't influence their understanding of it.

It´s nice you see how others are "mislead", but completely fail to see how you are simultaneously mislead and misleading others by posting your generic "Pro zoo" rants in here. You don´t even get the words right and make stuff up/pull stuff out of your arse, yet present it as "absolutely true".

First (well, not really ´cause I´ve told you over and over again), there is NO "anti zoo" law, there are anti bestiality laws. Second, define the word "antis"...to you, it seems as if every single person not immediately saying "You fuck animals? Cool stuff,dude! Where can I see footage?" is an "anti". But in reality, actual antis are but a very small group of people who dedicate lots of time (some even their entire life, as it seems) on trying to "doxx" , "expose" or "hunt" "zoos". Then there´s a vast majority of rather undecided normal people, obviously leaning to the "we don´t want people to fuck animals" side. Are they antis too?

No, they´re not. They don´t care about someone fucking HIS animal as long as this guy isn´t shoving it into their faces or physical abuse is clearly visible. Or, as Silkythighs has told you in BF "Yeah, be weird, but don´t be weird anywhere near me".

You really are a braindead, man. Sometimes I even wonder if you´re a bot or something, but then I realise that bots would probably adapt their narrative from time to time.

You vastly exaggerate the power laws have over you, you also have this trench fight mentality (" us versus them ") and see the world in black and white and all of that without a single second of actual real experience with an animal yourself. In a novel, you´d be the textbook flat character who´s not changing at all from page one to the final page, you do not learn, you do not adapt, you do not reevaluate your own views. Stiff like a frozen stick. In a way, you´re not different from those antis ; you don´t listen, nothing can penetrate your prefabricated "truths", your logical abilities are somewhere near dim and nought and a real discussion with you simply isn´t possible due to your fixated reality tunnel of "Ooooh, we zoos are sooo persecuted and unjustly treated".

With what you do in here, Beastforum and probably in some more "zoo" forums is DETRIMENTAL to our cause. You don´t reflect actual truth, actual reality in your posts, no, you´re trying to incite a "zoo riot" (...well, just look at the footage of the "Zoophile Rights day" to get an idea what such a "riot" would be like) and don´t even waste a single thought on the consequences...for each single person stepping into the limelight, for our entire community and , last but not least, the animals. Actually I am honestly surprised how little place the animals´ perspective of zoophilia has in your rants...almost as if they don´t have anything to "say" or contribute. All you do is pushing your "zoophile" agenda, your human centered illusion of "zoo rights" (once again, NOBODY on this goddamn rock spinning in space has a RIGHT on sex, NO ONE!!).

Honestly, you´re basically the same as those braindead campaigners against "zoophilia", you´re equally brainless in your rants and posts, you too fall short of seeing things objectively, you too cannot transgress the line of your ideological prison you´ve built for yourself.

All you present in here is so damn far off from actual reality , so far off from a real zoo´s life reality...how difficult is it to simply accept that people don´t want to be confronted with "zoophilia", not for religious reasons or because they hate us, zoophilia or anything else, but because they don´t want to see, hear or read about people fucking animals.You demand "zoo rights", but society has a right not to be confronted with us, too. The biggest detrimental effects for our cause always emerged when things surfaced from privacy into the public. Enumclaw, Doug Spink, fencehoppers, animal porn makers seized etc... if you really want to improve things for zoophiles, don´t campaign for a ridiculously stupid attempt to overthrow legislation...it won´t happen, not with 10, 100,1000 or a million supporters. If you really want to change things, stop idiots from surfacing with their bullshit. Disencourage ANY fencehopper, stop supporting the illegal porn mafia from twisting and tearing our already badly shaped public image. You simply don´t dismantle a bomb with brute force and a sledgehammer, you know...leave this job to the specialists, for god´s sake. And, for god´s sake, find the key that unlocks your friggin´ mind and sets you free from your self built cage. If we actually want to change things, we need THINKING,ADAPTIVE minds, not "ZOO" ZOMBIES like you obviously are...

It's by and large out of our hands, but regardless, I start with public perception and work up. You don't eat a whale whole.