KynophileDog lover 5 points on 2017-06-03 18:11:33
Nothing. I have no indication that this information is in malicious hands or even still exists. So, basically, I live my life as normal, and if I'm blackmailed or exposed as a pervert, that is the time to deal with it.
Darkspirit5 1 point on 2017-06-03 18:25:48
You are a brave soul.
KynophileDog lover 3 points on 2017-06-03 18:46:10
Why worry when it won't change things?
Darkspirit5 1 point on 2017-06-03 18:56:00
Because your life could be ruined forever. On the plus side, it gives you more than enough reason to spend each day like it's your last.
KynophileDog lover 3 points on 2017-06-03 19:19:27
But if I can't change that, there's no point getting upset over it. One of my favorite characters in movies was Rudolf Abel, an old Russian spy in Bridge of Spies. The entirety of the United States loathes him and wants him executed for treason, and his defense lawyer (played by Tom Hanks) marvels at his calmness in the face of all this. His response is simple: "Would it help?"
I won't say such emotional distance is easy, or even healthy in some cases, but it's a good response to complete uncertainty.
zootrashcandoggy doodle dandy 1 point on 2017-06-03 18:57:03
If it's never to be seen again it sounds like a problem that solved itself.
To actually answer the question, I don't think it'd really affect me too much. I don't have much 'dirt' that'd be usable outside of thought-crimes and owning certain toys. The worst would be my queerness honestly, I've already been threatened about it. I'm already planning on living semi-isolated or leaving permanently, so that wouldn't change.
Darkspirit5 1 point on 2017-06-03 19:41:52
I've been wanting to live in the wilderness, or become one of the wandering homeless. Perhaps even adopt a dog to keep me company. Worse things have happened to them. I'm not going to boil the dog alive or eat it, like some people in this world do in the name of tradition. Surely there is no other option in this situation than to accept the merciful embrace of death?
zootrashcandoggy doodle dandy 1 point on 2017-06-03 20:46:48
That's not really the only option. The outcome is an unknown. Someone might never find it during your lifetime, someone who finds it might not care, might not know what to do with it, or have different motives (identity theft comes to mind). It'd also depend on what information exists on you. Some stuff might make your life harder, but isn't illegal in and of itself. Stuff that's illegal? It'd first need to find its way to someone who gives a shit, then they'd need to be able to prove it in court. You never said what format the information is in. If it's text then you have plenty of plausible deniability. Images might be trickier.
Say your life is truly going to be destroyed by this. You lose your court case, your animals, any future contact with animals, your friends and family disown you, all that. You can end it all or, since you have nothing to lose, you can become an advocate. It's not like you're going to be doing anything else with your life, why not chase your court case up to the SCOTUS or be a public activist?
You also need to keep in mind peoples' attention span. "Queer Loser Wants to Fuck a Dog" might be weird news for a week, but after that? I might be a punchline but aside from the most obsessive individuals, nobody would give a shit once something new and weirder pops up.
Something else to keep in mind is spite. For some people knowing that their continued existence pisses off people is reason enough to keep on keeping on. Living well's the best revenge and all that.
In my case there's not really anything that anyone could do with my information that could totally 100% fuck me over. I may have lost most opportunities to get into my ideal field of work, but not all of them. Even if all opportunities were shut, I could still find work elsewhere- hell, there are a good number of zoophile artists who have been publicly outed, they still get work. It might be harder to find a breeder or rescue to get a dog from, but not impossible.
So again, I don't think it'd affect me too much. I'd do what I'm planning to do anyway. As long as I get to live near the woods with some dogs I win.
SCP_2547 1 point on 2017-06-03 19:36:58
I think it's always hard to put yourself in such a situation.
I know I'd panic like shit and enjoy life even less than I already do.
I'd search for it with the help of others. I'd try to make another excuse that it's really important to me.
Of course, I would not find it because of the scenario you put up here, so at that moment I would have given up.
Then, I'd be even more paranoid and afraid (more than usual, which is so bad it would probably result in mental damage and ruining my life) and wait it all out.
This would result in:
People never found it and I never got in problems.
I would hopefully lose my paranoia after two years at the very least, if not then my life would be really ruined.
OR
People found it and I got in problems.
I'd assemble every weapon I could. I'd take food and drinks for both of us.
I'd take her toys and some memories with me and get the fuck out of there.
Then I'm not really sure what we would do. Probably move to a random direction which will get us in another country.
In the meantime, I would probably break in people's homes and rob them.
And if the small chance all of that would happen, I would try to find us a new home or somehow contact the people I knew, hopefully still having their respect so they could help us out.
Alternative:
Get caught, lose my dog and life, will either avenge ourselves to everyone involved or go so insane that I'll kill myself.
Oh and by the way, I'm not trying to be a badass. Didn't say I could do this, only try and probably fail horribly.
Darkspirit5 1 point on 2017-06-03 19:57:01
This would make a great movie.
SCP_2547 1 point on 2017-06-03 20:25:13
Yeah, no.
thelongestusernameeeResident shitposter 2 points on 2017-06-03 20:02:01
uh
u ok there buddy
Darkspirit5 1 point on 2017-06-03 20:06:10
Never really have been
actuallynotazoophileok, I lied 1 point on 2017-06-03 20:47:21
I'd be able to talk my way out of it, so it wouldn't be too bad. it would be awkward though i imagine.
30-30amator equae 1 point on 2017-06-04 02:34:40
Oh, how I hate deleting ...
As much as I can tell from the replies, the topic probably was what to do when something incriminating, some form of evidence gets lost. Well, that´s rather simple...don´t have evidence that could get you into trouble. That´s my credo since I started being an active zoo, so there will be no "harddisk full of porn" , no "sexytime photos with my mare", no "confession letters" addressing my sexuality, nothing that potentially can get me into trouble if lost.
I apply the same process to my manuscripts about zoophilia when they are saved as encrypted word files as to my weed : burn it!
There´s only a small pile of papers left in my cellar, with mostly very harmless content...all the notes I took in my early 90´s IRC era, some books and scientific booklets about zoophilia (The horseman/Midas Dekkers` book/ Josef Maassen´s book to name the best known), but nothing that can be used against me as evidence whatsoever.
And that´s it. Highly recommended for all zoos worldwide. ;)
/r/zoophilia archive
Nothing. I have no indication that this information is in malicious hands or even still exists. So, basically, I live my life as normal, and if I'm blackmailed or exposed as a pervert, that is the time to deal with it.
You are a brave soul.
Why worry when it won't change things?
Because your life could be ruined forever. On the plus side, it gives you more than enough reason to spend each day like it's your last.
But if I can't change that, there's no point getting upset over it. One of my favorite characters in movies was Rudolf Abel, an old Russian spy in Bridge of Spies. The entirety of the United States loathes him and wants him executed for treason, and his defense lawyer (played by Tom Hanks) marvels at his calmness in the face of all this. His response is simple: "Would it help?"
I won't say such emotional distance is easy, or even healthy in some cases, but it's a good response to complete uncertainty.
If it's never to be seen again it sounds like a problem that solved itself.
To actually answer the question, I don't think it'd really affect me too much. I don't have much 'dirt' that'd be usable outside of thought-crimes and owning certain toys. The worst would be my queerness honestly, I've already been threatened about it. I'm already planning on living semi-isolated or leaving permanently, so that wouldn't change.
I've been wanting to live in the wilderness, or become one of the wandering homeless. Perhaps even adopt a dog to keep me company. Worse things have happened to them. I'm not going to boil the dog alive or eat it, like some people in this world do in the name of tradition. Surely there is no other option in this situation than to accept the merciful embrace of death?
That's not really the only option. The outcome is an unknown. Someone might never find it during your lifetime, someone who finds it might not care, might not know what to do with it, or have different motives (identity theft comes to mind). It'd also depend on what information exists on you. Some stuff might make your life harder, but isn't illegal in and of itself. Stuff that's illegal? It'd first need to find its way to someone who gives a shit, then they'd need to be able to prove it in court. You never said what format the information is in. If it's text then you have plenty of plausible deniability. Images might be trickier.
Say your life is truly going to be destroyed by this. You lose your court case, your animals, any future contact with animals, your friends and family disown you, all that. You can end it all or, since you have nothing to lose, you can become an advocate. It's not like you're going to be doing anything else with your life, why not chase your court case up to the SCOTUS or be a public activist?
You also need to keep in mind peoples' attention span. "Queer Loser Wants to Fuck a Dog" might be weird news for a week, but after that? I might be a punchline but aside from the most obsessive individuals, nobody would give a shit once something new and weirder pops up.
Something else to keep in mind is spite. For some people knowing that their continued existence pisses off people is reason enough to keep on keeping on. Living well's the best revenge and all that.
In my case there's not really anything that anyone could do with my information that could totally 100% fuck me over. I may have lost most opportunities to get into my ideal field of work, but not all of them. Even if all opportunities were shut, I could still find work elsewhere- hell, there are a good number of zoophile artists who have been publicly outed, they still get work. It might be harder to find a breeder or rescue to get a dog from, but not impossible.
So again, I don't think it'd affect me too much. I'd do what I'm planning to do anyway. As long as I get to live near the woods with some dogs I win.
I think it's always hard to put yourself in such a situation.
I know I'd panic like shit and enjoy life even less than I already do.
I'd search for it with the help of others. I'd try to make another excuse that it's really important to me.
Of course, I would not find it because of the scenario you put up here, so at that moment I would have given up.
Then, I'd be even more paranoid and afraid (more than usual, which is so bad it would probably result in mental damage and ruining my life) and wait it all out.
This would result in:
People never found it and I never got in problems.
I would hopefully lose my paranoia after two years at the very least, if not then my life would be really ruined.
OR
People found it and I got in problems.
I'd assemble every weapon I could. I'd take food and drinks for both of us.
I'd take her toys and some memories with me and get the fuck out of there.
Then I'm not really sure what we would do. Probably move to a random direction which will get us in another country.
In the meantime, I would probably break in people's homes and rob them.
And if the small chance all of that would happen, I would try to find us a new home or somehow contact the people I knew, hopefully still having their respect so they could help us out.
Alternative:
Get caught, lose my dog and life, will either avenge ourselves to everyone involved or go so insane that I'll kill myself.
Oh and by the way, I'm not trying to be a badass. Didn't say I could do this, only try and probably fail horribly.
This would make a great movie.
Yeah, no.
uh
u ok there buddy
Never really have been
I'd be able to talk my way out of it, so it wouldn't be too bad. it would be awkward though i imagine.
Oh, how I hate deleting ...
As much as I can tell from the replies, the topic probably was what to do when something incriminating, some form of evidence gets lost. Well, that´s rather simple...don´t have evidence that could get you into trouble. That´s my credo since I started being an active zoo, so there will be no "harddisk full of porn" , no "sexytime photos with my mare", no "confession letters" addressing my sexuality, nothing that potentially can get me into trouble if lost.
I apply the same process to my manuscripts about zoophilia when they are saved as encrypted word files as to my weed : burn it! There´s only a small pile of papers left in my cellar, with mostly very harmless content...all the notes I took in my early 90´s IRC era, some books and scientific booklets about zoophilia (The horseman/Midas Dekkers` book/ Josef Maassen´s book to name the best known), but nothing that can be used against me as evidence whatsoever. And that´s it. Highly recommended for all zoos worldwide. ;)