Where do you see zoophilia in 5 years? (self.zoophilia)
submitted 2011-11-13 05:27:13 by tailbaitteen non-equine
Do you think it will be as it is today, largely taboo? Do you see it going to where homosexuality once was? Do you think it will be perfectly accepted thanks to some sort of scientific research? What do you think will happen?
I think nothing will happen. Nobody cares less or enough about that.
I'll just be a zoophile and live with it, do the things zoophiles just do and don't care about the people outside.
I agree with you that most zoophiles are content to stay underground and maintain a low profile: just let us love our animals and stay out of our way. In an ideal world, it would be nice to be open and honest with fellow humans, being open and honest with your lover can be enough.
However, while I think five years is too short a time frame to adequately address the 'social progress' issue, I do see at least a glimmer of change. The process goes from denial to revulsion to joking to indifference: while there are states and countries passing laws (you only need to pass a law when you perceive a threat), zoophilia and its bastard terminologies are out there as subject matters for humor in popular culture. And, as Freud reminds us, humor can be a way to address repressed or taboo subjects. I'd rather be laughed at than subject to a witch hunt; maybe more jokes will at least result in a passing familiarity rather than immediate disgust.
That's right. Zoophilia is known scince antique greek (where it was allowed).
In modern aspect I can only think of Germany 1969 where it was allowed scince then. But that does not mean it's accepted by people. There goes some protesting in the internet about that, but it's honestly nothing to worry about.
I don't think that the laws are that important to worry about first. It's more the social acception of zoophilia. Laws won't change any minds.
Exactomundo. I recall one zoo acquaintance from the Netherlands mentioning that, just because zoophilia was technically legal, didn't change the fact that most people viewed it exactly the same as they do in the US, or anywhere else.
The closest we're going to come to acceptance in the next few decades will be moving to a farming community where sex with animals is relatively widespread and condoned. Even then, you'll still be considered "funny" at best if found out, and probably much worse than that.
Right; to my knowledge, no state has made a law explicitly allowing sex with animals. To say zoophilia is 'technically legal' only means that a law hasn't been created to specifically address it. So when a state passes an "anti-bestiality" law -- such as in Washington over the "Mr Hands" case or, more recently, in Florida -- the responses are either "How was this not on the books before?" or "Is this what legislatures are wasting their time with?"
Thanks, now you've got me daydreaming about some edenic commune and wondering how a place like that could even hope to exist in current moral climes.
You're welcome to Germany. Sex with animals is allowed until no physic or psychic harm is given to the animal. Uploading animal porn is forbidden, but having them on your pc or downloading is legal.
No state has made such a law that I know of, but a few States (i.e., countries) have. If I'm not mistaken, Germany and Denmark are two of them, with the Netherlands formerly one of them that recently criminalized it again.
And yeah--it seems that most new anti-bestiality laws on the books these days are reactionary: a highly-publicized incident happens, and some self-righteous and opportunistic politician decides to spearhead a new law against it. And it's pretty fool-proof. I mean, who's going to argue in favor of having sex with animals, amirite?
I honestly don't make much distinction between states where bestiality's a felony, a misdemeanor, or not specifically outlawed: in any case, getting caught would be disastrous, and I'll simply be discreet.
I think it'll have an even harder uphill battle to get to the level of acceptance that, for instance, homosexuality has at the moment. The majority of people do tolerate homosexuality, most people won't outright feel disgusted by it or take it upon themselves to inform them of just how wrong they are aside from the occasional knuckle dragging troglodyte bigot or the morally upright zealot.
But ask people if sleeping with an animal is wrong and you'll get a knee-jerk reaction to it. All arguments will be shut down because 'you are aroused by animals'. It's up there with necrophilia to most people. It's an extreme taboo that will have a very long and hard journey to be acceptable.
That beings said there aren't a whole lot of zoophiles out there who are willing to step up and openly admit they love animals. If that can't happen then I don't see it making much headway socially or legally.
Five years? Maybe not much. A lot can happen though.
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